Something has gone terribly, terribly wrong with Big Brother.
It would seem that houseguests are now actually only playing to make jury. But that’s not all. I think some of the players areย actively trying to lose the game.ย And it’s not just Big Brother 19 specific, as we’ve seen it heading in this strange direction for the past several seasons. But this season, I think it’s all the way there.
When you have a player (Alex) telling Paul that she wouldn’t mind coming in second to him because he deserves to win, then this isn’t the same show it was nine, or even seven, seasons ago. And even this past week when Julie announced to the houseguests that they reached jury, they stupidly celebrated like she had just told them they all tied for first place and would each be getting half a million dollars.
It was bizarre. And sad. Very, very sad.
Gone are the days, it seems, that people are playing to win. We are just past the halfway point of the season and there have only been three people seemingly play to win Big Brother 19: Paul, Cody and Jessica. And unfortunately for Cody and Jessica, they didn’t make the right moves or win the right competitions. Jessica is out and Cody is heading out this week, so that leaves Paul.
So Paul is playing to win, but it can be argued that when you have a group of people obeying your every command, and even offering to lose the game to you, you’re not being forced to playย very hard. On the other side of that argument, though, is the fact that Paul has all these people eating out of his hands. Is it fair to say they’re all just stupid or production is convincing them to follow Paul like sheep? That’s debatable. We have no real proof of what anyone’s motives are (or what their IQ scores are). But there are very strong suspicions. And yes, I haveย those suspicions, too (I’m more of the stupid players camp, though).
That being said, beyond Cody and Jessica, Paul has been the only other person truly playing the game. At this point, he deserves to win. He doesn’t deserve to win the wayย he deserved to win Big Brother 18, mind you, but who other than him this season has proven themselves worthy? Let me run through each player left in the game now.
Cody. I’m including Cody only because it’s only Tuesday and I guess Hell could still freeze over and he stays in the game. If he were to stay in the game, then he would definitely be a deserving contender. I venture to say he couldย be more deserving than Paul because he has never played Big Brother before, and he didn’t have any direct help from America (or production). There was that pesky eviction, however. But he battled his way back in the game. A lot of people say once you’re out, you’re out, but if you have enough fight in you to get back in the game and make it to the end, I think you deserve to win. Of course this is all moot come Thursday whenย Paul leads the charge to get him out a second time.
Alex. Does Alex deserve to win? Right now? Absolutely not. She said before the season started that she didn’t want to win this season. She said she’d rather come back and win aย second season. This is what’s wrong with theย modern Big Brother cast. They’re seeing the same formula over and over. If you make a big enough impression and can afford living on a summer stipend, you can play Big Brother every couple of seasons, sometimes twiceย in a row. So she has no drive to win this season, and she’s doing literally every single thing Paul wants her to do.
Josh.ย Sometimesย it seems like Josh almost sees things clearly, but then you realize he’s just being influenced by his emotions or by a question from production that he’s read too much into. He’s arguably Paul’s No. 1 minion, despite Josh claiming Christmas is his No. 1.ย Josh wanted to make his own moves, but in the end he had to fall at Paul’s feet. So, no, Josh isn’t more deserving than Paul at this point.
Christmas.ย We’veย seen a little bit ofย strategy from Christmas here and there, but she too, has followed Paul’s every command. At one time she told Josh not to listen to Paul and run his HOH how he wanted, but then she turned around and didย exactly what Paul wanted. She even wasted a power that sheย could have used to benefit ย herself all because that’s what Paul wanted. I do think Christmas sees the bigger picture and could make a bold move soon, but it’s getting down to the wire and if she doesn’t make a move soon, she may never get the chance. So as of now, no, Christmas does not deserve to win the game over Paul.
Jason. For someone who has never seen Big Brother, Jasonย figured out how the game works pretty well. He had a lot of bold ideas earlier on and had a more focused picture of how the season should play out, but then he started just deferring to Alex for every single thing. And since Alex is getting all of her moves from Paul, Jason is as well. Alex is like the middle manager to Paul’s CEO. It’s ridiculous.
Kevin. For the longest time, Kevin was in the best position in the house. He’s played one of the best social games in history, which means he’s also played a very good old-school floater game. I’m not talking about the “floater” defined by Rachel Reilly that has since stuck with newer fans of the show. I’m talking Jun Song-impeccable floating. One where you cover all your bases and all sides at all times and no one barely notices. Unfortunately for Kevin, though, lately he’s gotten a bit messy and has started to annoy his allies. Alex in particular is pretty obsessed with what she finds to be Kevin shadiness. So Kevin, so far, only had his social game going for him and now even that’s tarnished. So should he win? Probably not at this very moment.
Elena. Eh. Elena confuses me. I think she’s tiring of being expendable member of her alliance, and sort of knows what needs to happen for her to stick around in the game, but she’s not really done herself many favors so far. In facet just this week she gave up the veto for $5,000 while she’s sitting on the block. So no, ย I wouldn’t say she has any reason to win the game if the finale were today. Does she have what it takes to make a bold move if given a chance? She seems ready to do it, but time will tell.
Mark. This week will make or break Mark’s game. If he can win Head of Household and pull the trigger on his plan to go after Paul’s side of the house โ Paul and Alex in particular โ then he’s a contender. But right now, not so much. He gave up his closest allies for people who are now turning on him, and he openly admits to being a flip-flopper. He’s done nothing to hide that aspect of his game. Mark is starting to wander off from the flock, but he has been among the other sheep the entire time.
Matt. Ummmm, no.
Raven.ย Absolutely NO.
So like him or not, Paul is the only person really playing to win (as of now). And that’s why he should be the biggest target in the house instead of everyone’s go-to guy. And if someone does find enough balls to go after him and succeeds, they will become the most-deserving person to win Big Brother 19.
Writer’s note: This is my personal gameplay analysis based on what I’ve gathered from watching the season very closely. I’m not a Paul “stan” trying to pad Paul’s BB19 resume. I’m simply calling it how I see it. We invite you to call it how you see it in our comments section below. How do you think everyone is playing? Who do you think would deserveย to win BB19 if the finale were today?
Since we are pretty much eliminating Cody now, I would have to agree Paul is the most deserving of the 500k. As boring as the season has been, if you look at it objectively he is the best PLAYER at the game.
I still think Kevin has played a very good game, but he is a complete and total non-factor in comps which dings him pretty bad. I think he is front-runner for America’s Favorite though.
Kevin for AFP would be so much better than Jess.she is begging real hard from what I read.
Let her beg. The BB fandom RARELY rewards a player that begs for AFP….see Gnatalie last year! =)
This. Jess doesn’t deserve to be AFP…she played a weak game in her last HH.
I would vote for Jess for the new award, LFP (least favorite)
I like this award. If she wins it, take away her stipend!!!
She’d have my vote too
I would vote for her for that one and i would tell my friends to vote too!
Either Paul or Production, ahh hell they’re both the same player, deserve that one most. Loved him last season but Pauduction ruined this year.
Figures she would. She is a horrible person, IMO
She’s actively been campaigning AGAINST him on social media. Like… c’mon girl. Lets see if anyone even remembers you in 6 weeks. Have fun chilling with Glenn.
In a season full of followers, anyone that stands up against Paul will be remembered. I bet Jess and Cody even get invited back in a future season.
At least Jess stood up for what she believed and actually played to win. Made a show to watch, what these ppl are doing now omg I’m about to cancel my live feeds I’m so bored! so yes beg or not JESS 4 AFP
I agree! She didn’t hold back. Everyone else is too far up Paul’s behind to see straight. Jess and Cody get it. Everyone else is in la la land.
I agree at least Jessica played the game all the rest of them are handing the game to Paul he could be in the house by himself that’s how boring it is.I quit watching to boring. If they can’t find better people they won’t be on much longer.
Oh BJ Jessica wants Cody as AFP so badly it makes her look bad her begging like she does! Doesn’t she realize Cody will never win
I’m voting for Jason. I really liked Kevin but now after him and Christmas and everything he’s said when he’s got a wife at home really changed my opinion of him. Jason is such a nice guy and his laugh on the feeds is contagious. Him and Alex together on the feeds are hilarious. And if Alex isn’t in F2 I’m voting for her.
I’ve never thought of this , but what if the winner of BB, is also AFP? Or is that even a possibility? I’m thinking that it’s NOT.
Me too!
Alex doesn’t want to win, she told Paul he should win and she’s okay with second place.
She does want to win. She told Paul “IF” she didn’t win she’d be happy with him winning or him and Jason in the F2. Thats “IF”.
She “acts” like she is playing to be Paul’s GM and not to “WIN”.
How can you say that when she flat out told us in the preseason interview with Jeff that she doesn’t want to win so she can come back a 2nd time and win that one… That’s the problem with bringing these vets back. Instead of playing their ass off people just think “oh well, I’ll just get a chance in a future season.”
She said I want to come back next season and win like Nicole. Jeff said you don’t want to win and she said no, no I want to win.
Yup, agree.
Well if she wants to win, she needs to start making her own decisions, not Paul’s. Taking Elena out tonight instead of Cody would be a good move on her part, instead of following Paul’s plan on a daily basis.
She does make her own decisions. Watch the feeds. And she doesn’t have a vote.
What decisions did she make? If Cody goes home tonight, that’s Paul’s doing. Everyone that has been on the block and have gone home, is Paul’s plan and decision. Everyone follows, and agrees, including Alex.
She wanted Dom gone her first HOH and she went. If she was following Paul, Ramses would of been put up and gone but it didn’t happen. She wants Cody gone this HOH and Cody is going. You do realize her and Paul are working together they have a secret alliance. And that’s what people do in an alliance. Work together.
I’ll agree with you on Dom, although it was both her and Paul’s decision. But Paul is the one that wants Cody out more than anyone else. He hates Cody, she was actually thinking of keeping him and evict Elena, which would be a smart move on her part.
So NO it wasn’t her idea to get rid of Cody, although he isn’t gone yet, but the writing’s on the wall..
I know they have a secret alliance, but that’s Evil Paul’s deal with her, highly doubt he’ll keep her to the end.
I agree..they’re all his puppets!!
what did I miss Kevin say to Christmas? I know he can’t keep his creepy hands off her, but did he say something?
He said something to Jason and Paul. He asked a Paul do you think you can fall out of love with someone and fall in love with someone else. Then he told Jason I’m falling in love with Christmas.
Oh my gosh…..that is horrible. His wife must be so heart broken. I vote to evict. Thank you for the details.
Kevin has a https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9a1ece7ef88b434fc99d4e6abbc84a5589767a0abb7da8f5e5e66ae402e88e8e.jpg “Cast” fetish?
Christmas shouldn’t have even been brought back to the game!!! She’s been given too many PASSES!!!
Ask the other Veteran Players who won if they think Paul played the best game. How would Paul stack up in an All Star BB game. He would be sent home early going up against savvy players. He doesn’t deserve to win 500K. None of the players do. I am watching the program I am reading about it here. And catching highlights at times.
100% agree. I loved him last year but I just can’t say he “deserves” to win this season with all the help he has received and being in a house full of people that don’t want to win. Furthermore if he does win, we are suddenly going to see people saying he’s one of the best of all time and I do not want to see him in the same conversation as Dan, Dr. Will etc etc..
In a season full of TRUE all stars he’d be in so far over his head he’d be the Jozea or Victoria of the season.
Exactly, he wouldn’t last two weeks. All the HG’s are too weak to play the game this year.
Dr. Will never won a comp, think that dinged him pretty bad?
Will actually won the F3 HOH, which is how he got to F2…but other than that…no, I don’t remember him winning any other comps in both seasons of BB. Mind you, BB2 did not have POV or many of the other life-saving comps today’s BB has. Will Kirby had to win BB on his wits and social game alone. Imo, that is why he is the best ever!
Actually that is incorrect, Nicole won the F3 HoH and evicted Monica.
The rest of what you said is kind of my point though. These days people jump on the criticism bandwagon for any player that doesn’t win comps, misuse or assume the term floater like it’s always a bad thing, and still call Dr. Will the best of all time, whether they’ve seen his season or not. They either forget or don’t know one of the “greats” never won anything.
So if Kevin can make it to F2 never winning anything with the social game he has played, he’d be highly deserving and the fact that he didn’t win a single comp should be looked at in a positive light rather than a “ding.”
That’s a fair point. However, I think we can both agree (as much as I do like Kevin) that there is a pretty wide gulf of gameplay between him and Dr. Will, right?
Sure but we’re also only halfway through the season.
Even then Kevin has been playing one of the best social games of recent seasons.
I cannot stand Paul’s strategy. Which is to lie and tell others to start fights. Liked him last year, not this year. The only two people who have deserved to play this year are Cody and Jessica, but production ruined that with Paul coming back and getting a 3 week free ride. Paul is obnoxious, rude and condescending. CBS better bring Cody/Jessica back or I’m through with BB and I have watched since day one.
Paul coming back was not really fair to any of the players since they never got to develop their own style and strategy. They just listened to whatever Paul told them. YUCK!
They don’t have to follow Paul, but they do because he’s good.
If he is good, how did he almost get back doored the 1st week?
By the way he wouldn’t last long with veteran players, they would eat him of alive.
How did he almost get back-doored last week. How did we all miss that???
No the 1st week. Remember he had to use the pendent of protection. He had no clue he was going up.
I firmly believe being that it was the ” 1st ” and Paul hadn’t yet gained all there trust he was in a heap of trouble.
But alas CBS saved him:(
They still could have tried to bd him after his safety was up, but did they try to when they had the chance…No. Why is he still there? Because he’s good. Only reason he was almost backdoored is because one person thought it could happen because he didn’t like Paul in his season and because he was a vet…period. Who’s to say Paul would be out the door without that safety? Paul would have convinced all the house of all the reasons they should keep him and vote out Jillian in order for them to remain safer with him than without! And it would have worked that way too! We have to go by what is, not by what isn’t. Still, Paul is there when they should have taken the chance to evict him when they had it.
Snowman, I agree. That was part of the deal that production made is to give Paul an eviction free month. The tone was set for the whole season when the producers set Paul up in a throne room interviewing HG’s while they kissed his ring/ass to get safety for the first week. SAD and the season has gone down hill since. Cody & Jess the only others with any fight in them.
It is a sad season. Even if Cody leaves tonight, we know who will be next and so on and so forth. It’s so boring.
He’s definitely no Dereck. Not even in the same league!!
He’s good because he’s playing with production. He’s good because he’s playing with people that honest to god say they don’t want to win. He’s good because we are watching the equivalent of a dolphin playing Monopoly with jellyfish (no brains…or hearts for that matter). He’s good because the collective IQ of the rest of the house (minus the couple that don’t blindly follow him) is lower than the season we are on.
Nobody in this game has ever been given the help he has received, or been put in the game with a cast that is so dumb they don’t want to win. Its a ridiculous combo… As a result so many dangerous precedents have been set this season that can and will directly impact future seasons.
Loved him last year, he played a decent game and should have won. This year, it was a mistake for production to bring a vet back and it was a mistake for them to then hold the vets hand through the game.
Is he playing a good game? I guess if you can get past all the production assistance, yeah he is…but then when you look at the people he’s playing with and how the season has been manufactured, its just not that impressive. You’d have to be the biggest scumbag on the planet not to be in the position he’s currently in.
They follow him because they are to weak to compete for the 500k.
You don’t agree with Paul returning but next year you want 2 people to return?
Right, bring back only who I want. LOL
Who I want too! :-)
Depends, no Jess or robot – alone or together!
Not either of them ever! LOL
Then we could talk but only for an AllStar season lol
We could. They’re not bringing anyone back this season now. No jury buy back!
Thank god.
Took the exact words right outta my …wait, off my keyboard!! Amen , Lynnne!
Let’s bring back Evel Dick then, and Jocasta, yeah…LOL!!!
Dick would eat up and spit out Jody so fast….
There would definitely have been a physical brawl then!!!
And Josh would of secluded himself in the have not room. Lol
He has to cry too! Lol
It’s gonna be all-stars next season right?That’s the rumor going round.
I don’t care for returning players yet I wouldn’t mind a celebrity edition, kind of like they do in the UK.
For 20th anniversary, I think that it should be.
Evel Dick. Wouldn’t that be so awesome? I wonder what he thinks about this season. That would be a whole other show. I’d watch it.
He is one of my favorites. To be able to act the way he did, and still win the game…WOW…just WOW!!! A master of the game. Too bad he had to leave the next time he played. Although, I don’t think he would have made it very far. I watch BB to be entertained. I get aggravated and frustrated about some of the things that go on, yes. But, in the end, it is so freaking entertaining to watch. I love it!!!
Exactly. It’s the typical social justice warrior attitude: “I’m only offended if I’m not the one doing it.”
Let’s try one season returning back to the fundamentals with partial fans and all new to the show…
I’d love it…and take people from applications instead of all the recruiting they do these days.
I don’t want anybody to return at any time for any reason!
Agree 100%. Paul is a manipulator, didn’t like him the first time he was on.
bring jody back? everyone else would just do the same thing and go after them 1st.
enough with returning players, it’s too much like a tragic love story.
Delete!
That is the players fault, not Paul’s…
According to some, everything is Paul s fault!
Oh, yeah, I forgot, my bad…
LOL!!!
So bringing Paul back wasn’t fair, but bringing Jess and/or Cody would be? How would bringing them back be any different than bringing Paul back, they would still be vets and would, possibly, hold the same sway as Paul. Besides it’s not Pauls fault that the others follow him and don’t have a mind of there own.
I don’t really mind seeing Vets come back. I was stoked that Nicole came back last year and she won the game. I adored her! I would love to see both Jess and Cody brought back. They at least made Big Brother this season bearable to watch.
Chelsea I would stop watching if Jess and Cody were brought back they are both disgusting to me especially Jess!
I’m about ready to stop watching robots obeying King Paul and all his decisions. Know one has played the game other than Jody. Yeah you don’t like them, at least it was entertaining drama.
Cody couldn’t have a social game if they gave him his own personal social secretary and Jessica is just a mean girl bully.
Amen to that!!!
All Cody and Jessica did was isolate themselves and get it on under the covers. Hope they never come back. Zzzz
Amen…
Why not? These people are too stupid to figure him out.
I love Paul and I am sorry he deserves to win right now! No one is going to make that big move against him and I don’t think they ever will!
Cody may be one of the worst players of the season IMHO. It wasn’t until his showmance got the boot that he showed any social skills. He made a fatal error early on of not selling the reason for getting out his nominations and left his alliance feeling he was dangerous to their game. His early physical threats certainly didn’t help to warm others to him. He’s getting a pass from a lot of feedsters simply because he is against the one person they seem to be united against.
The jury problem is something production is going to have to address. It has become the third place prize.
How is cody the worst player?
He had Paul gone and CBS saved him!!!
Yes some of his actions are horrible but at least he tried to play the game.
Who says he had Paul gone? Even without the temptation, Paul probably wouldn’t have gone home. He would have convinced the same people that voted for Christmas to stay to vote for him to stay.
Cody thought he could just issue orders. It doesn’t work like that, at least when you’re unlikable, blindside your own alliance with noms, and then isolate yourself with your showmance.
sorry u are wrong. if u bother to watch the 1st week, they didn’t like the idea of a vet coming in.
Paul only had 3 days to talk to them. Even as smooth as he was, don’t think that would have worked.
Also didn’t cody put up like 4 people to? Not fair to him is it?
100% correct, Snowman. Paul would’ve been gone had it not been for BB (or America), if that’s truly how it worked AND had he gone over it with his alliance and pulled in a couple more people.
lol, what. People in the alliance already liked Paul and thought he was in it. Cody even floated the idea and people didn’t like it.
Cody is an idiot. When he found out that Paul is safe he instead nominates ANOTHER member of the alliance instead of Ramses or something. And then doesn’t really campaign.
Yup, you ve got it!
Exactly. Say what you want about the guy, but people seem to like him a lot in the house. Just like last season when he would always be on the block but wouldn’t get evicted because people liked him. He has a great social game, he could have easily been evicted last season because he got closely tied to Jozea and Victor and their nonsense early on, and later on tied to Pauly when his attitude turned everyone against him.
He nominated strong players not weak ones. He made moves. If Paul did not have safety he would be gone no doubt and his alliance would have loved him for it, because Paul had safety his alliance turned on him.
He nominated strong, well liked players in his alliance without telling anyone.
He is a terrible player.
He is a terrible player BECAUSE he Paul stayed. You can argue all you want when someone makes big moves it is either the best move of the game or the worst it just depends on how the chips fall
That early on, you need support of your alliance as there are a lot of people in the house. Cody went rogue, went after Paul, who was in his alliance. If he did that to Paul, who was in the alliance, what would stop Cody from doing that to them too???-
They would have voted Paul out if he remained on the block no doubt. I mean seriously the game was new and no one really had any loyalty to Paul yet
But they had loyalty to Christmas?
She was no threat to them yet. Paul was a vet and they looked at him as a threat. They all grumbled about a vet coming back into the game, one that made it to final 2
By the time of the veto ceremony, they had been in the house for like ten days and they all liked Paul and didn’t want to see him go.
He was a threat to Cody, obviously the others didn t see him as a threat, just the self labelled alpha male who has proved to be anything but
I agree. He hadn’t had time to make friends and mist them yet.
Good point dtuggs, I agree…
BB isnt necessarily fair a lot of the time. Its a different recipe each season, contingent on the HGs goals, personality, mentality, social skills…Its not cut and dry. Megan left, Paul had safety from Temptation. Leaving Christmas and Jillian. Plus veto replacement. How often will this happen? Can’t say Paul would have been gone. A lot can happen in 3 days. “They” not liking vet coming back? Some of them were following others lead, like Cody, who hated Paul since last season. The outcome of If, Shoulda, Coulda, Maybe, is all pure speculation. Not to be cliche’ but for BB, expect ….. (we know what this means)
Looks like feeds are going to be down from before the Live show til possibly after Friday’s Special Episode @ 8p edt. Thus,keeping the DE process/results as a surprise. Some of us noticed how we have been blocked from some pertinent game talk. Take Care, Snowman. This is gonna be interesting week.
*DE happens during the Live Show. Entirely. The only thing we’ll be blocked from seeing until after Friday’s episode (barring any feed leaks, which tend to happen sometimes) is the post-DE fallout & initial nominations talk. =)
Unless they re filming something special for Friday s show.
I think it will like last year, some sort of special comp (luxury?) and a concert.
Me too. Possibly Jessica impersonating Ariana Grande.
zingbot, they said a special visitor maybe?
It s going to be like a buffet for Zinbot, so many options, so many things to go off on.
It might be a clip show
It was more than 3 days, it was a full week before the premiere show. And production stack the deck for Paul with friendship bracelet. That gave him an instant alliance. Nope, they were not voting Paul out even if he was on the block that 1st week (which was actually week 2)
True…
Yet Christmas only had the same amount of time (3 days) and Paul, (you know the returning vet that “everyone” disliked, lol!) as her biggest supporter.
Why didn’t Christmas get evicted?
Because no one respected or trusted Cody after that blindside move.
What the what??? Did you watch the first episodes and see the first week of the feeds? Who saved Christmas? Who rallied the troops? I mean, Christmas wasnt a shrinking violet, but Paul sure has heck helped. What evidence do you have that if Paul was on the block, that Jillian still would not have gone home? Who would have voted Paul out and how would that have gone down any differently than the way it went down with Christmas? Seems like a lot of wishful thinking, really.
Cody went rogue. He scared his alliance, he didnt check with anyone. Paul had made friends by that point (remember, it was 3 days as we saw it… it was 10 days or so in real time). Cody’s entire alliance had starry eyes for Paul…
Cody is quite possibly one of the worst players in BB history. He didnt even TRY to have a social game. I think the reason is because with a couple of modifications, Cody COULD be in a decent spot right now, and COULD be challenging Paul. and People right now are LOOKING for ANYONE to take on Paul. Cody could be it. But couldnt didnt have the social chops. That is on him.
But Cody needed help too… because Paul DID find his target. So Cody needed BB to have a battle back to get back into the game.
Disagree, but who am I? Anyway, Cody definitely could’ve had the votes to boot Paul when he took the shot at him. Had he confided in his alliance I think it could’ve been done.
No, if Cody had had the votes, his group would not have turned on him the way they did.
They turned on him because Paul could not be voted out and had safety so they dumped Cody to show loyalty to their new Master.
Just keep telling yourself that, you might convince yourself LOL
Agreed
Worst because
a. you cant play, and win BB without your alliance
b. he was dumb enough to get into a showmance with the other worst player in BB history in Jessica
c. he has NO social game as he kept all of his original alliance members in the dark about his plans to BD Paul-if he had told them, he wouldn’t have wound up an outcast
d. he came out too strong, won most of the physical comps by a mile thus becoming the physical threat target
e. lost the HOH comp to Alex intentionally which made him look bad to the only one that was still loyal to him in Jessica
I could go on, but you get my point, I think…
He really was such a terrible player. When Paul won HoH in week two, all they(Jody) did was hang out in HN room alone all week. Never tried to get back in the game. The Battle Back is a joke, he went against 3 poor competetors. Who actually thought he wouldn’t win his way back in?? And then he had a huge advantage against Paul in the final battle back becaus he knew how the levers worked. Paul had to learn on the fly.
Ok, here is one for you conspiracy theorists…You want to talk about the Battle Back favoring one player(Cody) yeah, this is it. Would they have had the battle back this early if it not for Cody being on the block and expected to be going out? I think that they would have saved the Battle Back for the jury house evictees if Cody stayed in the house long enough to make it to Jury and they had to cancel that because they used it to get Cody back in. How about that???
Actually the “Cody worshipers” will never get your point that he was/is one of the worst players this season.
He had Paul gone?
You are delusional!
Even without the the three weeks of safety, Paul would not have been evicted the first week. Cody didn’t have the necessary abilities to work with the other house guests in order to achieve his plans.
He didnt have the numbers to get paul out. He moved too fast on that one. Not telling his alliance has proved to be fatal for his game.
Cody’s aliance of flip-flops lol who looked for a new boss immediately hhhaahaa they are afraid of the house hahahaa and they are the house!..the dumbest group of HGs in BB history…
I’ll give you that. But after that he did nothing but seclude himself.
He would have had him nominated, not gone. He wouldn’t have had the votes to get him out.
Absolutely agree. Cody, even if hell freezes over and he stays this week, deserves nothing! He hasn’t played Big Brother. It’s not just about winning comps. Cody has ZERO social skills.
I would argue that almost everyone left in the house has played a better game than Cody.
I agree …it’s like the saying goes “any enemy of my enemy, is my friend”.
U are spot on!!=)
These people blow!!!!
no thinking for themselves, just yesing Paul to death. Hopefully that will come to a end soon if not CBS got there Wish!!:(
Every word true. For the first time, I’m really bored with Big Brother.
BB19 has become to personal. This show has become the Paul show and he should win. HG have become cult members instead of people who want to win and play the game to win.
I agree that there is a problem with players only wanting to get to jury. I think the reason for that is the recruiting of players. These players just want to be famous after Big Brother. If they stopped recruiting players and only had players who auditioned than I believe we could get back to some “old-school” Big Brother. Bringing back players is also a problem, and this season is a perfect example of that.
I agree. They should not recruit players. That has taken so much from the game.
Spot on.
This cracked me up………..
Matt. Ummmm, no.
Raven. Absolutely NO.
I laughed out loud at that part. And it is completely accurate.
Good post.
Although Cody has made plenty of mistakes, I sure wish he could manage to stay. I think he’s somewhat redeeming himself since Jessica’s departure. Too little, too late most likely but I sure wish there was a way…
Alex has been the biggest disappointment this season. From the start I was hoping she would be the one to say “screw everyone” and play her own game but once she fell into Paul’s clutches it was over. Especially with her saying she doesn’t want to win. I’m not sure anything she does at this point would make me want her to win.
Josh is a ridiculous waste of a HG, IMO, and has been since day 1.
Christmas is rotten. That’s difficult for me to say since I liked her pretty much from day 1 but with all of the bullying, or ganging up, throwing pot shots in like a coward, I think she’s rotten.
Jason has (had?) great potential. He started of rocky because he didn’t know the game but as he’s progressed he’s come to realize how to play. Unfortunately, he’s Paul AND Alex’s puppet. Sad because he could really make some waves, especially this week.
Kevin is a secret mastermind, I believe. From the start he acted all, “What’s this? Who’s that?” playing really dumb but I believe he’s watched every episode and knows how to play the game. We’ll see I guess.
Matthew and Raven, I agree: No. And I’d add Elena to that list as well.
I do like Mark. He’s a confessed flip-flopper but he’s not the only one. We’ll see more of that to come from other HGs. Mark my words.
Too late for Cody. He burned all of his bridge.
Alex is one of the best players. Watch the feeds more closely. #TEAMALEX
Great article. what needs to happen this week is Mark wins HOH puts Paul and Alex on the block Alex goes and then Elena or Jason wins next HOH and they nominate Matt and Raven. a completely different game emerges. Jason is free without Alex whining and giving him bad advice. Paul has no number 2 and his two best minions are now on the block, complete chaos. Josh and Christmas are irrelevant, as they cannot win comps. Paul will be so much weaker without Alex. Mark, Elena, Jason and Kevin form a group. Josh will crap himself and join too. Leaving Christmas, Matt and Raven in the cold. Paul on the outs.
Uhhh, why not just get Paul first, then go after the others on your list instead of waiting for 3 HOHs to go by???
If Paul and Alex go up together, Alex will leave, not Paul (unfortunately)
I don’t think they would have the votes to get Paul out withing the next three evictions. you would lose the vote from the HOH who put him there, the vote of the other person on the block, and then you would also have to keep Paul from winning the veto too. Not mention that Paul has his “crew” that would never vote against him.
If Mark puts up Alex and Paul, one of them has to go. And if either one comes down ,Mark would be smart to put up either Xmas or Josh.
Don’t think so. Alex would have Jason, Mark, Kevin and Mark would convince Elena. Elena is already starting to see Paul controls everyone. So that’s enough for Paul to go.
I hope you’re right. I just think that Rasputin has a stranglehold on those dummies.
Saying get Paul out, and actually getting Paul out are different things.
Paul has done an outstanding job of insulating himself in that house. At this point, I don’t think he would be voted out if he and Alex were on the block during the DE (not enough time for Mark to “campaign” and present his plan to the group.
Mark should be working on votes NOW. What’s he doing? To quote another house guest, he’s currently making victim noises!
To evict Paul, Mark would have to convince Matt and Raven that Paul is a threat to their game. Does he have the ability to do that? Are Matt and Raven smart enough to understand that Paul is a threat? I don’t think that I can answer in the affirmative to either of those questions.
If Mark could convince Matt and Raven the vote would look like this.
VTE Paul
Matt
Raven
Jason
Elena (are we even sure about Elena?)
VTE Alex
Christmas
Josh
Kevin
But basically with this breakdown I’m giving that Mark can convince Matt and Raven (highly doubtful). And let’s not forget Jason VOLUNTEERED to go on the block this week instead of Paul.
I’ve written this many times. I’ve come to realize how true it is while watching Derrick operate several season’s ago. It’s a Maya Angelou quote.
“I’ve learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel.”
Paul has done a vastly better job at making EACH of the remaining players feel valued than anyone else in the house.
THAT’S WHY HE’S WINNING THE GAME!
I completely agree with you. Even if Paul was on the block and lost POV, I don’t think that he gets voted out. He has been working on his DE plans for well over a week now. Mark, well, Mark is Mark, and he is not thinking past this eviction. Much less planning for a DE this week. Paul saw a DE coming and gave away HOH this week for a chance to compete in the HOH for this DE week. SMART and great foresight!!!
Kevin will vote Paul out over Alex. He has already talked to Jason about Paul controlling everyone. He’s playing up to a Paul so he’s not the next target. But Raven would never vote Paul out. I still think Paul would go.
You may be right about Kevin. BUT without Raven’s VTE how would Paul go? Also, if Raven doesn’t VTE Paul, I doubt Matt would VTE Paul either.
NO ONE is talking to Matt or Raven about the possibility that the house should target Paul during the DE.
Without Matt and Raven, there is no way that Paul gets evicted.
I said that earlier, Paul is the only one who has planned for a DE. NO ONE else is.
It depends who won HOH. She’d have Jason, Kevin, Mark and I believe Elenas vote to stay. That’s enough. Now Elenas vote could go either way but she’s finally starting to see that Paul is controlling everyone. So I think Elena would vote Paul out.
If Jason, Kevin, Mark and Elena VTE Paul, who has put him up?
Matt, Raven, Christmas or Josh?
That’s the problem with your scenario. Sure I could agree that any of those four could VTE Paul, but one of them will have to nominate Paul and that person won’t be able to vote.
Possibly Christmas or Josh. They’ve talked about it. Josh doesn’t like Paul telling him what to do. Matt and Raven will never. They think they have a F3 with him which is a joke. That’s why I said earlier when everyone said Alex was stupid for not backdooring Paul she needs the numbers. She’s not stupid and not going to pull a Cody. All I know is I can’t wait to see how this Thursday plays out and I hope Alex makes it through. I think she wins if she gets through DE.
Sorry, I don’t see either of them nominating Paul. One, both Christmas and Josh feel that Paul is on their “team”.
Two, if you nominate Paul on your HOH, you will need to evict Paul on your HOH. No one has laid the ground work to even know where the rest of the house will vote if Paul is on the block.
The main target for most of the house is Mark, Elena is target two. Mark says he’ll nominate Paul, but I think that in the end he will chicken out. In the end he’ll nominate and target Josh.
Somewhere else I laid out an idea of how Mark could evict Paul during the DE, but it involves talking game to Raven and Matt, something that I don’t think Mark is doing at all at this point.
Alex is not a target for anyone except Elena. And Mark has already told Elena that she can trust Alex that her word is good. If Alex makes it through DE she will win this game. #TEAMALEX
Someone has to eliminate Paul for Alex to win.
If Paul and Alex are F2, Paul wins.
I think Alex would win. Close vote but I think she’d have it.
I think Alex has played a great game. Her targets just so happen to coincide with Paul’s, so people think she’s doing Paul’s bidding. She’s been wanting to take out the showmances since her first HOH, but Dominique screwed those plans up. Even then though, if Jessica had any idea she was leaving, she would have used the hex.
She’s got 2 HOH wins, and a POV win. Other than Paul, at this stage in the game, she’s probably the most likely to win the money. She’s got a 5-6 person alliance, she’s so completely shielded from it with the guys ahead of her being bigger targets. She’s got what it takes to win a physical comp. I wouldn’t be shocked if she ultimately took a shot at Paul.
Um no…First HOH Paul gave her a plan then told everyone it was “her” plan and to her face said “tell everyone your plan” It was Pauls plan…This HOH she picked two people she wanted to put up, Paul told her one was good the other had to be someone else and oh what do you know it’s the two people Paul wanted on the block.
Paul had the better plan this time and she went with it, proves she s smart.
Of course Paul had the better plan
Great sarcasm but we know you d never admit that he did cos its Paul
The game- the game. Paul is playing the game and those who hate him will never give him any credi. By Cody!
Umm no first HOH Paul wanted Ramses out and Alex said no. Alex wanted Dom from week one and Paul finally agreed with her.
The two noms were Paul’s, I mean Alex’s plan. But Alex wanted Dom out and Paul wanted Ramses out. So half right, half wrong.
You’re crazy if you think that Alex is playing a better game than Paul. How is that possible if she is playing Paul’s game??? The best part about it is Alex thinks that she is playing her own game!!!
I did say other than Paul, she’d probably be the most likely to win the 500K. She’s proven to be a tough competitor, she almost beat Cody in the first comp and almost won OTEV. She still needs that one move that puts her over the top, maybe taking Paul out will be the icing on the cake. But as of now, she’s building an impressive resume.
I’ll give you that one. If not Paul, I could go with Alex.
She is playing her own game. And it’s better than Pauls. Just watch when she takes him out.
We’ll see about that. If she is playing her own game, like I suspect, you are right. I hope that she is…
I agree 100%
the thing that dragged the game down were the bb gimmicks on top of gimmicks. add to that megen leaving, cody battling back, the toxic showmance of jody, jess misusing her hex, lousy hoh winners…the house got constipated and stuck too early.
the momentum just wasn’t there.
I agree with this assessment. And I do believe the game has yet to start.
paul did have the advantage as a vet because he came in feet 1st, ready to play and the others didn’t know to start playing until they were played. you can’t blame paul for being ready to go.
Oh absolutely, like him or dislike him, Paul did what he had to do.
I don’t agree 100% with this. If you watch Big Brother for maybe 2 or 3 seasons, you can kinda figure out what’s going to happen competition wise because they seem to never deviate from a set schedule. Obviously what I haven’t mentioned is the fact that this game is a mental grind and most of them are not prepared for that. And on top of that are the twists that may help or kill their game.
So yeah…maybe Paul has the advantage of being able to get through this mentally but other than that? Look at Momma Day, she had the advantage and still didn’t get very far.
This. Exactly this.
It’s funny after watching week 1 I thought wow they are starting to play day 1, this is going to be a great season, then bam everything was stopped dead in it’s tracks. Worst season ever for me.
Wait, it’s not over.
LOL!!!
You got that right.
Never goes well when they come through the doors playing to hard. Cody jumping the gun is an example of that.
This is one reason why I think BB should go back to having only 7 in jury. That would help the “only wanting to make it to jury” attitude a little.
Yes and make them really work for it
And “undercover” work doesn’t count. No showmances would be a great rule, imo. If there is an attraction, save it for after the game….REAL life.
bb believes sex sells
It paid well last season.
That would also help to get the “right” winner. Last season, Da’Vonne was evicted on day 51. The finale was on day 99. She missed almost HALF of the season, and was still a deciding factor in who won the game. How can you make a sound decision when you didn’t even get to see them play?
Valid point.
Let me toss this out there.
If I were in the house, I too would claim to only be interested in getting to jury. Why would I paint a giant target on my back and say something like, “Who cares about jury! I want to win this whole thing!”
Why would anyone do that?
There was one player who burst through the doors this year basically “playing to win” from day one. He’s about to be evicted, having barely (and he shouldn’t have even got that far) made it to jury.
Viewers seem to want fireworks and BOLD game play. Inside the house, when you actually have an opportunity to win $500,000, I suspect your perception would change dramatically (if you had any smarts at all, in other words, if you’re more self-aware than Cody).
That’s a very valid argument. I know the HGs have mentioned several times that Matt said he just wanted to make it to jury so he wouldn’t be all that upset if they sent him there. This is the other side of that argument. Notice, Matt is still in the house though. Hmm.
next season, #20 is a big anniversary season so bb might go for some big changes.
we can always hope.
Start with firing Robyn Kass….that’d be one WELCOME change!! At least in my book.
whos that?
Kassting does the casting for the show.
The Casting Director. Captain just told me, though, that it’s not her fault because she also does BB Can, Survivor, & TAR. That means that the awful casting decisions are Grodner’s since she has the final word. Fire Grodner, then!!!
Kass is not the problem, she does great with BB Canada, Survivor and TAR. The problem is Grodner, she has the last word on who goes in the house.
Fair enough & thanks for the heads up!! I knew Kass did BB Can, but wasn’t aware that she did the other 2. I guess Probst & Phil have last word on Survivor & TAR, too, which makes a huge difference. Grodner is awful.
How do the people in the US watch BB Canada?
Online. It’s the only way. I think Matthew puts links on here & I know Hamsterwatch does, too.
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Big Brother Video.
They really should do an AllStar for the 20th.
Yea, ALL stars.
don’t let the hg’s be so idle, make them compete for small things all the time, make them suffer more, make them respond more, make the hn’s be pushed to their limits, they all have it too good and don’t even seem like they care most of the time.
they wouldn’t bully if they thought they weren’t in the “in” crowd.
Well with the All Stars, their egos wouldn t let them fall into a big alliance, they d all be forming their own. More sophisticated game play I would expect. You re right it should be harder for them
I like the napping ban they imposed this year. That was a plus. I wish they would bring back the food comps as well.
They seem to be slacking off on enforcing that the last few days though they should give Alex a pass that punishment is hard and having to do it through the night. Yawn, I m getting tired
She certainly is a trooper. Can you imagine Raven or Elena doing that?
OMG, not Raven!!! She already complains about nonsensical things.
No. I do wonder, if Raven had have gotten the punishment, would it have conveniently been a different one…kind of like the slop pass was conveniently placed for her to get. After seeing the girl eat, you know that has to now aggravate the crap out the HGs.
She eats 24/7!
I love her for that but a whole week seems like too much, same with Jason in that heavy helmet. that could compress his cervical spine.
I’m afraid she is going to tumble down the stairs.
I miss the HN comps too. What happened to that?
I like that, maybe HOH can nominate one person and America nominate one person, I’d love to see that. Maybe let America get one vote for eviction. There are so many new things they can do but BB does the same old stupid things year after year…Even there comps are the same…
But then if America votes one side or the other is going to claim it was rigged.
OMG, you took the words right out of my mouth. The conspiracy theorists…bless their hearts…
no matter what happens, there will always be people saying something is rigged…
Or winners only, as many that they can find who are willing…
I rather see a second chance at the prize. No former winner.
I really like the idea of a season full of first boots. It’s been suggested for Survivor, too, and I think it’s a great way to give a 2nd chance to people who never really got to play.
Yeap, I came up with a list of players, the other day, that never made it to jury, I went back to BB12 and came up with 20 names that could be good to bring back.
Was Frankie one of them?
Wash your mouth out with soap!!!!
Yes ma’am.
I figured you would agree with me. We seem to agree on most things.
Oh Lynne, if that’s the case, I worry for you LOL
He is my least favorite houseguest of all time. I know people say it all the time but I honestly would not watch or even read spoilers.
No I was teasing you about thinking like K. I am totally with you on the Frankie thing. I was so glad that he wasn’t even in the top 3 for AFP cos he thought he had it for sure
;P Bully!
Me too!
She means she worries for you that you agree with me. See how mean she is to me. :(
Got it now. Just a bit slow. I was thinking she thought I liked Frankie.
I would never think that Lynne, I know from your posts you’re a smart lady
Why thank you.
I very much agree, sis!
Aww.
She’s my OLDER sis and has bullied me all my life. That’s why I’m such an introvert.
I’m telling Mom you’re lying again, you know she’ll send you to that naughty mat
You’re learning our sarcastic mentality. We are rarely serious and enjoy anyone who plays along. :)
C’mon you know you love me sis
Like a turd after being constipated for a week. :D
I know you like that one. lol
I’m speechless, what is there to say that hasn’t been said further below
Did you know he competed on CBBUK? He actually made it to the finals! How bad must the other guys have been?
Maybe they couldn’t understand his accent?
Now that you mention that it rings a bell.
No, he made it to jury.
I guess I overlooked the made it to never made it to jury part
Ugh, no Frankie, PLEEEEASE!!!
Care to enlighten us Captain? You have piqued my curiosity…
I’ll try to find it tonight, I’m at work right now.
Me too…shhhhh…..
My ‘baby made it on the list?
Here’s the list I came up with a month ago. I’m going to rework it to make it more descriptive. In the meantime:
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More girls on here than guys…interesting…I could see these:
Bronte
Tiffany
Paola
Brittany
Kaitlin
Jo Jo
Monet
Kristin
Jeff
Nick
Howard
David
Wil
Keith
Braden
Casey
No showmance couples either
I don’t know about all first boots, would seem pretty boring. Maybe all of the second or third place HGs that have never won. This way you know that they would have at least some kind of skill because they did make it that far. Or maybe some of the battle back winners too??? )not Cody though..hehe…)
Maybe all the people that got kicked out the first day, let them get another chance to play
What if they did that with all first boots, then you were the first boot again??? That would really suuuck!!!!
Loser of the losers, lol
How bad of a player would you have to be to “win” that title???
And the title would be LOL, lol
Ya but it would be a house full of game players. I’m not winning the 500K by watching so who cares if someone wins twice. Entertain us.
You really want another season of Nicole, Liz and Andy ? No, thank you.
Absolutely NOT!!
Unfortunately I completely 100% agree with you. I have not watched the show since last week, I just can’t stand to watch Paul run his mouth.
Good analysis. Just sit back, watch Paul, laugh at everyone else, and enjoy the show. That is, assuming Mark/Elena don’t win HOH on Thursday night during the DE. And even if they do, I bet Paul would survive a vote even if he lost the POV.
I hope Mark wins I really don’t think Elana has the balls to put up Paul. If Paul, Josh, Alex or Christmas went I would be happy.
I’m not sure Mark does either. We shall see.
Oh, I think Mark has had enough of their bullhockey and just might put Paul & Alex up!
I think Paul would survive it. I do think that Mark would take a shot at Paul if he wins HOH. Elena is still kind of wrapped up in a semi-alliance with Paul, so I don’t think she would put him up.
If Mark wins HOH during the DE, major fireworks will be ignited. But, no matter who gets evicted under his HOH, I suspect Mark will get axed the following week.
Alex saying she wouldn’t mind coming in 2nd could be her way to put in Pauls head. Every season you have floaters, those without a clue and good game player. I like this season. Even though not every player makes the obvious moves, etc…it’s their game. So watch and enjoy
A voice of reason, thx
Agreed Alex is alot smarter than shes getting credit for.
We’ll see!!
disagree, she does not know how to think for herself….
Disagree with you disagreeing. She can not only think for herself she can also listen to others input and accept when its a better option.
lol
As a player, you always have to keep an open mind, notice when what you want to do is not getting any traction, and adjust your game play and plans to what will work the best, given the situation and those you need are thinking and want.
sorry, but I disagree, that is not my observation. Alex was #1 on my list, but she has turned out to be such a disappointment….
Too bad we can’t set this up for automatic ‘disagree’ posts between you and me, It could save us time and our fingers lol
lol…so true
Ok, than go against the grain and get evicted, just like Cody in the second week? Alex is working her game. Sure, it may be Paul’s game, but she is still in the house. when the numbers start to dwindle, if she is still there, it will be easier to take a shot at Paul.
I hope so….but the time is now to get him out
She wouldn’t have the votes.
you just know jess, maybe even cody are on next years cast, I hate the thought of it and won’t be a feeder.
yeah right, you know you will be on here next season…
maybe not, I was bored with the tragic love story of jody.
lol….:)
Ugh … say it isn’t so!
True… just like Paul telling Alex there’s no way he can win because he’s a vet. That’s bull, he knows it and she knows it and if she doesn’t she’s dumber than she looks.
she’s dumber than she looks….he has made that comment to others as well…I want to know why they haven’t called him on it and bring up the fact that Nicole a vet won over him last season…
Christmas did, but not to his face.
exactly…they have no problem calling other people out, call his BS out and put him in his place
No, Alex has said since very early in the game that Paul’s going to win and “we’re all playing for second”. Her tone has never been, “so we need to get him out”, it’s always been “he deserves to win” and she’s happy with second place.
She’s even told they were final 3 with Paul, she would probably take Jason but it was a weak probably with a question mark dangling at the end.
I’ve been saying this since season 15. Big Brother needs a MAJOR shake-up at the top, namely Allison Grodner and Robyn Kass. The cookie cutter casting and unmanageable twists make for a complacent cast.Now sometimes we luck out and get a Vanessa,who can use the twists to their advantage. but mostly we get people like James (Huling) or Matt. Why not just sit around and eat free food.You’ll get paid either way. I’m not a huge Survivor fan, but I do know the one thing they do an excellent job of is casting. They always get bright, knowledgeable people who came to play. Since they cast from pretty much the same pool of people, it’s easy to see where the problem lies.
Vanessa and her constant crying drove me insane!
But she PLAYED THE GAME!
Quit shouting. I realize that. Just like Paul is playing the game and things he is doing drive others crazy.
:)
Here’s a crazy idea, how’s about only letting those who actually applied make the cast? So tired of the recruited folks in the game. I suppose it could work, but so far it hasn’t. I miss the old random team comps where you could win a movie, dinner, etc..
Excellent spot-on analysis!
so, get rid of jury…..let the ppl vote. simple.
that would make it very interesting….leaving them no choice but to actually play the game
They did that on OTT. I wouldn’t consider the idea a success.
Trouble there is the HGs have to play to/for/against each other. They’re mostly trying to hide their game from their opponents then those opponents have to make their jury vote decision based on how convincing the game play was.
But for viewers, we’re in the all-knowing, all-seeing position with so many other influences on a decision like that. It’d be playing to one set of rules and then being judged by another. Not a great combination.
Re-posting this so all can see…
Ok, here is one for you conspiracy theorists…You want to talk about the Battle Back favoring one player(Cody) yeah, this is it. Would they have had the battle back this early if it not for Cody being on the block and expected to be going out? I think that they would have saved the Battle Back for the jury house evictees if Cody stayed in the house long enough to make it to Jury and they had to cancel that because they used it to get Cody back in. How about that???
Quite possible
I think ChenBot was telling those voted out before Cody they could have a chance to return?
I don’t remember Julie saying anything until Cody was evicted
No, I don’t think she did but the clue was that no goodbye messages were aired yet I remember Alex talking about a message that she had taped for one of them
Yeah, I noticed the no goodbye messages too…good point.
Good point. I was thing about the missing goodbye messages as I was responding but I already hit enter before it sunk in.
She told Dominique.
so what, even if that is true, he earned his way back in, it wasn’t handed to him, it’s not like the comps were physical
Well and this is said tongue planted firmly in cheek, production rigs everything so they knew Cody would be evicted 4th so had Battle Back planned for that months ahead to get him back in, lol
Yeah, it was only a matter of when they were going to use it. they were lucky enough that there were enough evicted before Cody to have it. they even waited for Dominigue to get the boot, just so they had four to compete.
Last season there were 5 when Victor battled back the firs time.- Jozea, Glenn, Tiffany, Bronte and Vic. This year Cody was the 4th evictee but Megan had already taken herself out.
Earned is pretty strong. Look at who he beat to get back in, except for Paul. And even against Paul, Cody had practice on the puzzle. Any other comp like that the HGs are given practice time. Not for Paul. And Cody got to choose the comp. They should have let Paul choose since Cody had already won both of the comps.
you have your opinion & I have mine, I stand by my comment 100%
Yeah, you’re right, you can have your opinion, and I mine. Just an observation. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, I simply made the comment to start a fun convo.
it worked…lol
thank you :)
cody had an advantage when he competed against paul, paul was not familiar with the contest, cody had just played it. RIGGED!
AGAIN…
you have your opinion & I have mine, I stand by my comment 100%
the battle back was about finesse and agility, cody had just mastered it and was pretty skilled whereas paul was not.
yes, I really feel for Paul…..
Thank you for your sympathy, you’re starting to see the light ;-)
lol…not happening
Doesnt matter if you like paul or not. Its true cody had the advantage having just played the game while paul hadnt. Just common sense really.
No common sense allowed…JK…LOL…
Exactly! That Battle Back was clearly designed to help get Cody back into the house. Yes, they would have saved it for jury house evictees if Cody and/or Jess went to Jury.
Shhh! The majority of us don’t go for conspiracy theories – we just joke about them.
I am completely shocked at how many losers there are in this discussion !!! “Production” this, “Production” that, “CBS” this, “CBS” that. If you TRULY BELIEVE this game is fixed or in ANY way compromised by CBS and/or production, why are you supporting the show? Why are you on here commenting? Oh I know why, it’s because most of you are likely the same in every day life too, looking for reasons to complain. Looking for reasons to be angry about something. I’ll tell you this much, normal people wouldn’t spend 5 minutes supporting a show if they think it’s being rigged or manipulated behind the scenes. Myself, I’d rather watch paint dry then watch a reality show I don’t think is completely real.
love it….
When i say, “completely real”… sure, I get it, every network would try and do things to spice things up a little bit for ratings. But for people to say that production convinced players to lose on purpose to Paul and stuff like that makes me shake my head. LOL
I seem to have struck a nerve with the conspiracy theorists with my last post. I knew I would, that’s why I posted it(hehe). Take it down a notch though, we are here to have some fun…Calling people who are here to have a fun conversation losers is a bit harsh. Lighten up man…Aren’t you on here angry and complaining too??? I guess we are all not “normal people” as you put it then. Take these discussions with a grain of salt. Everyone on here is a BB fan or we wouldn’t be here. Have some fun with it…geeze…go and watch some paint dry and don’t make such harsh, mean comments to such a great group of BB fans. Have a wonderful day and comment back if you so choose, or don’t if you choose not too. We respect your opinions either way, as we do each others.
I understand your point. I also see that professional (and college) sports have been found to have been rigged for decades whether it’s the officials or the players themselves. Other times fans will call for a new quarterback or a firing of the coach. It doesn’t mean the fans are “losers”, it means they care about their team and want it to be better! Sports viewership hasn’t changed even though it can be crooked at times. The only reality show that comes to mind as being “completely real” is COPS, and even then they plan to do raids when the cameras are there.
Totally over people taking their time to go to a site & announce they have quit watching a tv show. Wth? Why do we need to know that?
Great analysis. As it stands, Paul is the most deserving. But I could see Christmas, Alex, or Jason stealing this game. They have the smarts to do it, and whoever finally pulls the trigger on Paul will jolt to the top of the “Who Should Win” board.
This has not been a good season. You hit it on the head. It’s not even people who want tv exposure. They just want the stipend. I don’t get it. Thousands of people would kill for the opportunity. Why do they keep recruiting pretty people when they should be getting real gamers?
they game for fame
because they want really good looking people. The people that would go and play to win are not what CBS considers “good looking”
You’ve nailed every HG in this game, Branden. I’m seriously hoping Mark can win HOH during the DE and pull off a big move. At the very least, weaken Paul’s forces so that it’s not as predictable going forward.
if its not Paul, it needs to be Alex, Raven or Josh..
and omg, poor Cody if he gets stuck in Jury alone with either Raven or Josh
“Poor Cody??” That’s hilarious!!! LOL!!!
I understand not liking the predictability. I just don’t understand wanting someone who has been a “mindless minion” winning the game.
Going for favs vs players
The only 2 who are actually playing are Paul and Alex. Of those left only Kevin comes to mind as a fav, He definetly doesn’t deserve to win. Jason answers to both Alex and Paul. Especially Alex. She is constantly putting him in his place. Christmas isn’t worthy. She can’t compete in comps. As Braden said Matt No, Raven, defiantly no. That brings us to Elena…..seriously? That leaves Mark. I guess he would be the most deserving but he would have to see if it was okay with Elena for him to win.
Because once Cody’s gone, there’s no one left except Paul, who hasn’t really had to do all that much. America gave him protection for 3 weeks (yes, America, not production, he came in as the vet, so it was inevitable), and then every other HG besides Jody has handed Paul everything on a silver platter. He may have the social game to get them to do exactly what he wants, but that’s it. He hasn’t had to work for it.
We all know the direction this season is going….but I would like to have seen how Paul would have really played without the 3 week protection….
one thing, paul kept his mouth shut whereas jess totally ruined her game because of how she played her protection. stupid girl.
He would of been gone week one. I wish that would of happened.
He would been out in week 1
mark is on a hot streak and paul is s#1ting his pants so hoh is going to be epic.
Great Post. And this makes even ore clear of how bad this cast is…
Well if you watched that closely you would have seen when Paul and Alex were talking about F2 it was if I don’t win I’d be happy with you winning. She also said if you and Jason were F2 I’d be happy for you. She wants to win. It’s if she doesn’t who she would like to win. And that interview with Jeff when she said about coming back he said you mean you don’t want to win and she said oh no I want to win but look at Nicole. Alex is playing a great game and everyone saying she’s one of Paul’s minions just doesn’t get the game. Does anyone know what an “alliance” is? How about a secret alliance? Does anyone remember Danielle and Jasons secret alliance that got them to F3 and nobody knew about it? That’s what Paul and Alex have. They discuss what to do. Alex has her own opinions and she proved that her first HOH when Paul wanted Ramses gone and Alex said no. Alex wanted Dom gone from week one and Paul finally agreed. This HOH Paul suggested she just put up one couple instead of pissing off both couples. She agreed that would be a better move for “THEM” and it was a better move. If Alex makes it through DE she’s going to win. She’s playing a smart, strategic slow and steady game. She knows exactly what she’s doing. JMO
Go alex!
Yesssss #TEAMALEX
TEAM ALEX
Haha yes. Hey you started it. Thanks. I need to say that on every post. Agree?
who me?
Yeah didn’t you start Team Alex on another thread?
yep.
Hope you don’t mind I borrowed it. All Alex fans need to continue it. :-)
LG, you’re making perfect sense. Too bad the ‘paul and his minions’ people don’t want to see it
Exactly. From the conversations Alex has with Jason I think if she had numbers on her side Paul would be gone. But she doesn’t so it’s better for her game to work with him for now instead of against him.
I know you need to time that shot right if you’re going to take it. She’d have Jason. Right now no one knows where Kevin’s head is at. I think she’d lay some groundwork first and the bigger targets have precluded that for now.
Yep. She’d have Jason and Mark. I think if Kevin knew it was for sure he’d jump on board because he’s getting tired of Paul telling him what to do. I don’t think she’d have anyone else. Maven, Santa and Josh are up his butt.
Santa lol
Kevin’s head is most likely on Christmas’s lap. ;)
even cody conceded that point. he offered for her to throw paul out and make him her new daddy. sexist crap.
she would of had the numbers on her side if she would of put Paul up as the replacement:
Cody, Mark, Jason and Kevin would of voted Paul out and Christmas, Josh and Raven would of voted Elena out
Now that would have been awesome!!!
And then she would of had Matt, Raven, Christmas, Josh, Elena targeting her.
No, Mark and Cody would of calmed Elena down, so it would only be Matt, Raven, Christmas and Josh against the rest of the house….which the 4 of them are on everyone else’s target list anyway…..
But why create a target for herself when nobody is coming after her except Elena. And Mark told Elena she needs to leave Alex alone and that she can trust her. Cody even said we’ll be on the bottom and fight are way up. That would be a stupid move when she’s already on the top.
why do you think people can not get this? why do they really want alex to save cody? why, why, why?
Because they want Paul gone and think the should have their wish right now?
There are still way too many Jody lovers living in the past…When he goes to jury they will all be saying, well if Cody would have stayed in there or Cody would have got him out if he wasn’t evicted…ugh…enough already about Cody, he played a crap game…
No move using Cody is a good move. The cons way outweigh the pros.
Exactly
why would she keep cody? whats in it for her?
Cody is a huge target no matter what, why not use him to get the strong player out and then take Cody out….which could be at the DE
but why does alex need a middleman?
is that a daddy thing? a sexist thing?
According to you Paul is a huge target as well.
Then Cody teams up with Mark and Elena and goes after Alex and Jason to break those two up. Bad move for Alex.
get him out at DE
or she can just get him out during the first eviction on Thursday. You gotta take the shot when you have it locked down.
Uh, the first eviction would be Cody or Elena, those noms are already locked in.
by him, I am referring to Cody. The poster suggested getting Cody out during the DE.
Oh, I see. Too many comments..”I’m sooo confused”, to quote Vinny of Welcome Back Kotter fame. Wow, I am old!!!
No worries. It gets confusing. Glad you agree me though.
Don’t hate him just because he is Paul. I don’t like him either, but with the cast he is playing with, he is working them perfectly. And, I still don’t think that there are enough votes to get him out. No one is working that angle right now as the only one that really planned for the DE is Paul and his crew.
Cody or mark would have a chance to get hoh for the de. That blows up that plan. Just not a smart move to keep cody.
What if he wins HOH? You have to take a shot when you know you won’t miss. That’s why Paul is still there. Too many people are on his side. Just watch when the numbers are right Paul will be a huge target.
cody was too stupid to count votes.
That would be nice but would they have the numbers? I think if Mark wins HOH and puts up Paul and Josh it would be close. Christmas I think would keep Josh, Elena would keep Josh, Kevin would keep Josh. He would need one more vote. Jason and Alex have talked about cutting Paul but don’t think they’d do it this soon. Why? Because then they’d probably be the next target.
She wants to work with Paul. Not Cody. Why is that so hard to understand. Forcing Cody on Alex is like forcing Raven on Cody. Not going to happen.
sorry I just want to see people play the game without any crutches, I am anxiously waiting to see some real game play and with everyone following Paul’s orders we are not seeing it…like I posted, Cody can be evicted at the DE…then the house only has themselves to rely on…
You’ll see game play starting at the DE.
why don’t you think that alex can play her own game? I don’t get it.
I think it’s because the overall narrative hasn’t changed with the same group running the house thus far. Once the group gets their targets out, we will finally see who wants to play and win.
I agree. That’s when we’ll see who’s a player and who isn’t.
Completely agree. Like I said in an earlier post:
As a player, you always have to keep an open mind, notice when what you want to do is not getting any traction, and adjust your game play and plans to what will work the best, given the situation and those you need are thinking and want.
Well said.
Agree 1000%
Paul wanted Dom gone that week and used the “interview” with Cody as the excuse to target her. Paul threw out more than one name to make it look like Alex targeting Dom was her decision and not what Paul wanted. This HOH is about getting rid of Cody not one of the couples. Not that strategic imo.
Rewind your feeds because Paul didn’t want Dom gone until Alex mentioned her when she said she wouldn’t put up Ramses. If Paul had it his way Ramses would of been gone that week.
is big brother aware of this bad casting? why won’t they do something about it? give mark some type of power..create a new twist..anything at this point!
How would giving mark power change the bad casting?
it would change the dynamics and people will start to pull away from paul..maybe see them step up their game
that might work
Right it would change the dynamics but it wouldnt change this season being a bad cast.
Once Cody goes and depending on what happens during DE I think it’s going to be a different game.
If you’re rooting for Paul, it’s the best casting ever.
GO PAUL!! that’s right…I said it!!!
Yes!
It might help him eliminate some of the bad casting.
Mark won’t evict Elena. ;)
There’s a lot worse casting than Elena.
I had hopes her. I really liked her at first. She is just getting totally nasty. Mouthing off to Production, trying to sneak food when she is a have not.
type of power comes from winning comps. period.
The twists are done, thank god. We don’t need any more of them and we don’t need production ‘giving’ anyone anything.
Stop it!!! Play nice now tr8pping3…play nice…lol…
But, why start now? lol
okay meatball
They should give Josh some type of power.
The MEATBALL power!!! Yes, please give Josh the power of the Meatball!!!
LOL!!!
Oh, you mean like the power of THOUGHT? He hasn’t demonstrated anything like it yet, but I can see where it might come in handy for him.
Big Brother Over the Top`s cast was GREAT, one of the best we have seen in years.
Some part of me thinks it’s because they want they want some of Paul’s fanbase. Alex stated prior she wanted to lose, come back and win her 2nd time. Could she be following him simply because she thinks she’ll be popular with Paul fans, which will guarantee her a returning spot? Lol
I agree with many that this is the worst BB season ever. No one wants to really play the game, they just want to follow Paul. Big time Boring … BB made a major mistake bringing back Paul, he’s ruined the season with his bully attitude. Didn’t care for Cody and Jessica, but at least they tried to play the game. Josh is just a big baby with his childishness actions (thought he was going to hit someone with his pans). BB is overdue for retirement, it’s no longer fun to watch.
How did Cody and Jess try to play? They secluded themselves all the time. That’s not playing.
Well they did play with each other…
every night…..
under the covers….
on national television….
with their families watching.
Lol. Do you think that will make her famous? After all didn’t she say that’s why she was there to get tv time.
The Kevin/Cody convo @11:30 cracks me up. The are both complaining about people who feel entitled. He is actually describing Jessica to a T….LOL
I caught part of that. Just turned the feeds on a little while ago. They’re usually boring during the day. Last night there was some drama. But once again it’s Josh going after Mark and everyone watches. Alex was mad at him for taking her bedding which I get it a little but she’s in HOH. I get her saying if you asked it would of been ok and she said she wouldn’t have any bedding when she came down. Thought it was a little petty but I still love her. She’s a feisty little thing. She says what’s in her mind.
Alex is my favorite too. I was not a Paul fan last year although towards the end I started to warm up to him. Loved the Secret Service gig and of course Pablo. I do like Paul this year. I would be alright if either of them won.
I liked Paul last season too towards the end. I liked him at the beginning of this season. Now not so much. I think he’s so arrogant and I don’t like the way he dictates telling everyone what to do. Is it good game play yes if they’re going to do it like fools. I think I’d like him if he would just take it down a notch.
Careful, there are a lot Paul fans here and Jody haters…..
The only time they played was in the comps. Other than that they were either secluded off in the HN room, HOH room or fighting with either Christmas, Josh, Raven, etc. There is a social side to this game too. You can’t win BB by depending on comps alone. Just ask Janelle…
I don’t see how you can say cody and jess where playing to win- its kind of ridiculous. They were intense in the competitions but that is it- neither had any social aspect to their game at all beyond sucking face with each other …. so emotional and in their own bubble. They wanted to be treated like Paul, with everyone jumping when they say so. They were frustrating to watch for me and pretty pathetic game play as well
They didn’t play the game well BUT they were playing for themselves as well. Everyone seems to get mad when people say these HGs are playing Paul’s game, but… I mean what are they doing, exactly? So far they’ve done everything Paul’s wanted them to do lol
It’s great for Paul, but everyone else nope.
Well, it is keeping them in the house. So, it is still a win for them too…
They were working on a sibling for Paisley as well. ;)
I just think they gave out too many safety nets for people, that is what has delayed some real game play
My money is still on Kevin and Christmas for final 2. Yes, Kevin seems to be finally getting antsy inside the house and he’s finally on other people’s radar. But he’s still not really making himself a target. Christmas is smart enough and distant enough from everyone else to make a big move later. With everyone else in just kind of one big group — with no real strong alliances — it’s a bit of a tough haul to overthrow Paul at this point. So really in order to shift the power it will have to happen when there are fewer people, which seems counterintuitive… but when you say no one’s really playing the game it’s because they can’t. They need to just protect themselves as long as possible – it’s just how the dynamics have worked this season.
Christmas is just downright NASTY…
We finally agree!!!!!!! Yay
lmao…
Can’t stand Christmas, can’t wait until they get her gimp ass out of there.
kev/xmas don’t win jack
I’m not sure that matters this year, really. As long as Cody goes this week and Paul is out before, say, final four, I think they will do it. My money’s on Kevin to win the jury vote. I think Alex will eventually get caught up in paranoia and overthinking if she does eventually play her own game. Josh will just falter somehow. Mark I would put in final three, because he has the ability to think for himself.
Nah, it will be, and some of you(well most of you will disagree) PAUL, Alex and…wait for it…JOSH for final three. Then Final two would be Paul and Josh((if Paul has the final choice) or Alex and Josh(if Alex has the final choice). If by some miracle it comes down to Josh having the final choice, it will be Josh and Paul.
Under which scenario do you see Josh having the better chance at winning?
I don’t but you never know with this show. Josh lucked out and got HOH. I never though that I would see that either!!! I see Josh at the end with whoever is left at final 3. Then whoever won two of the last three comps would, if they have half a brain, take Josh. He is not comp threat and no one would vote for him to win to half mil over anyone else. You know for sure that you would get Cody’s vote if Josh were there at final two, even if it was Paul and Josh, Paul would get the vote.
I’d think if Alex eliminated Paul F3, Josh would have a better chance with Paul rallying support.for him. That and Josh would need one helluva final speech/interview session.
I NEVER said that Josh would win the $500k. I said that he would make it to final two. In no scenario do I EVER projesct Josh to win the $500k, none…I said that i only see Josh at the end with whoever is left at final 3. Then whoever won two of the last three comps would, if they have half a brain, take Josh. He is not comp threat and no one would vote for him to win to half mil over anyone else. You know for sure that you would get Cody’s vote if Josh were there at final two, even if it was Paul and Josh, Paul would get the vote.
I was just curious what you thought, I tend to like your posts/opinions!
Thanks, and I your’s. We tend to think a lot along the same lines. Great minds think alike..
Everyone left in the house has at least half a brain, except for Josh.
Ummm, I would disagree. Captain Cereal seems to be operating on cereal fumes, nothing more. He had to ask BB what to say in his veto speech yesterday. How pathetic is that?
You are correct, it would only take half a brain to defeat Josh and that’s being generous.
I don’t know – I’m not sure Alex really has the ability to think outside the box enough to not just follow Paul and, if she does try to disrupt his reign, she’s probably mess it up because she hasn’t really developed her own support network or really shown herself to be much of a strategist.
alex is a warrior!
Paul is turning on Kevin, which means if Paul wants Kevin gone the house will want Kevin gone. Paul gets what he wants.
Alex brought up how sketchy Kevin was acting to Paul first.The more Paul thought about it, he realized she was right. Even Christmas was telling Paul stories about Kevin. Kevin told the girls he would put him in check. When he talked to him he basically asked him if everything was alright. He didn’t “put him in check”. I think it was to pacify Alex and Christmas.
Funny that Kevin said in his DR last week first I lay low but now it’s time to play. Once he lay low he wasn’t a target at all. Now that he plays, oups, he’s a target.
He should go back to lay low!!!
I agree; something is majorly wrong with BB, especially this season. How did it come to this: everybody in the house wants Paul to win and for the rest of them to go to jury and get paid for doing nothing for the next six weeks?! BB and CBS owe the viewers an apology. These HGs are wasting time – theirs and ours – and are unnecessarily costing CBS a whole lot of money.
Too much happened at once..day one eviction, a self-eviction, friendship bracelets, safeties, powers, golden apples, battle backs, third nominee blah blah blah and all too soon for my liking.
cbs screwed the pooch
Tue 10:56 AM BBT 1053-Cody (alone): I’d like to clean out of boredom but I would be helping them & they would come & thank me. I dont want to talk.
What a jerk
I think that is awesome. Cody doesn’t suffer fools gladly and he’s in a house full of them.
Whatever. This kind of tude is why he is getting evicted.
He seriously can’t except a thank you from someone?
Him admitting that they would thank him shows that the fools are better human beings than he is.
They just can’t understand why Cody doesn’t like them. After all, they mobbed up on him and Jess, lied about him, questioned his service, sent a brainless boob to harass and intimidate him, and on and on. I can’t blame him for doubting their sincerity. Besides, if you weren’t locked in the house with these people would you have anything to do with any of them?
Grown ups should know how to be courteous. How hard is it to say “you’re welcome”.
Riiiight.
Who is questioning why he doesnt like them? Anyway, wouldnt really matter who was in the house he wouldve acted the same imo.
exactly
They can’t understand why he doesn’t want to be around them, why he hangs by himself. . Have you been paying attention?
Probably more than you lol saying the question why he doesnt like them is not necessarily the same as asking why he hangs by himself. They all seem to think he is a psycho. BUT i was simply asking a question….
As much as I can’t stand Cody, I think it’s pretty funny. They don’t deserve to have him clean for them. I would feel the same way. He has shown a whole different side to him this week without Princess Butthole dragging him down. A side I wish he had shown from the start. He was cam talking last night and I honestly didn’t believe it was him. It was so strange to see and hear him being human and expressing human emotions, instead of his victim noises.
I agree that he should not have to clean for them. However he said he likes to clean when his is bored. His reason for not cleaning is because he does not want to hear them say thank you. I just found that strange.
Meh, I get it. I’m not a very social person either and sometimes I just don’t want to be bothered. That being said…..BB is a social game, that’s what’s so funny about Cody being in the game, he just isn’t cut out for this kind of thing.
My job requires me to be social. I am good at putting on a fake smile.
:) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/61daeb542d1a368a70017dba64fd0840b72b5935c7475a59945d61e99a744a36.gif
Unfortunately Josh will go to the end because everyone wants him sitting next to them in F2. He’s Princess Victoria 2017.
The decision to take him to F2 is very strategic, and again..that’s playing the game.
Not strategic, a no-brainer. No brainer = Josh. Simple equation.
lol I disagree..It’s strategic!. Strategic=Josh. Simple equation.
Josh spell strategic.
Low blow dude…low blow…lol
too funny
Spell evicted lol
Josh has to be the biggest final 2 ticket since Victoria.
Great Great Post – 100% right on – specially liked the part on Kevin’s game analysis. Although he would be in a much better position if there were better players. When he decided to make moves (and good moves in my opinion) the others all turned on him.
One more thing to remember regarding Paul’s game. He was given the most unfair advantage any player in the history of Big Brother has gotten. 3 weeks where you can not get nominated. COME ON – REALLY. Cody would have gotten rid of him week one if it were not for that. So Paul had it extremely easy – way to easy. First 3 weeks are the most deadly for Vet players.
Why do you think Cody would have gotten rid of him week 1? See, this is the biggest mistake people make. They assume that because Cody put Paul on the block, Paul would have went home. Why? Why do you think that?
I assume you watched the feeds and watched the episodes week 1? What in that did you see that makes you think Paul would have gone instead of Jillian?
To me, it is just a lot of wishful thinking. If Paul was on the block instead of Christmas, and everything else played out the same, Paul would still be here.
Also, CODY needed help too… because Paul was able to get Cody out week two. If there wasnt a battle back, could would have been done.
But, folks who say cody would have gotten rid of Paul week 1 are just wrong.
Tell me what would have been different? I would love to know.
Thank you!! This argument is getting so old and tired and doesn’t hold any weight whatsoever. The HG’s would have never voted out Paul at that point and time and I’m not sure they ever will.
Nope. They might as well just write him the 500K check now and save themselves some time and money.
But this fantasy that Paul would have been gone in week 1 is just nuts. Now, if Christmas went home week 1, even after Paul campaigning to keep her… then they have something. But she didnt. Her and Paul effectively flipped the script. No reason to think it wouldnt have been the same if it was Paul on the block and not Christmas.
Absolutely nothing, IMO. Jillian would have still gone home. And, If Jessica did use the Veto and put Paul up, he still would not have been voted out. Paul had too many allies at that point(and still does), and everyone still did not like Jessica and would not have given her what “she” wanted. That is why Ramses was voted out, because she wanted him to stay…duh…
You can tell from the reaction of the Hgs that even if Paul went on the block he would’ve stayed just like Christmas did.
I dont know why people keep insisting paul wouldve went home that night. The numbers simply werent there. Add it up people!
No one actually knows, you believe he wouldn’t of been evicted and others believe he would have….it’s big brother and anything is possible, either way it would of been a better game in all if BB didn’t give ANYONE 3 weeks of safety
It was a different game in week one until the Hex. Everyone knew they couldn’t touch Paul for three weeks (He he is a veteran) and that is what gave Paul the time he needed to consolidate his power.
I am not saying that Paul doesn’t know how to play the game. But he had 3 weeks without any risk to set people up. Namely Cody. Your Blind if you don’t see this.
Even if Paul went up week 1, he wouldn’t have gone home. He made friends with a lot of people and he could play the victim to get them on his side like he did for Christmas.
He is a veteran – He may have had friends in week 1 but they all would have agreed to get out the biggest threat. And that would have been Paul. Veterans are always vulnerable the first 3 to 4 weeks.
And more over Cody would have still been in a position to strong arm people. There would have been no betrayal of Christmas either which I think hurt Cody more than Paul’s relationships or friendships. Kevin,Jason,Christmas,Mark Elena, Alex, Jessica all would have voted Paul out in week one (in week one). Matt and Raven would have followed the crowd (I think). My opinion.
It occurred to me that because there are so few people playing the game there have been no big blow-outs about backstabbing and blindsides. These houseguests are fighting about cat ears and pillows… Not that I don’t like the drama, just prefer it to be game related.
Christmas went after Mark big time the other day and last night Josh went off, again on Mark as well for working both sides. It was a total waste of time, not sure what he needed to prove with his temper tantrum last night. He tried to get Cody included in the drama. It was entertaining but a complete waste of time. If Josh continues with this behavior he will be targeted sooner rather than later.
Paul told him to go off on him so they can keep him upset this week so he will do bad in hoh. He told him to do it again right before show Thursday.
He didn’t tell him to go off on Mark late last night, in fact Paul wanted no part of it.
No he told him he wanted him to do it several times this week. I think it was Saturday but not positive.
I’m speaking about last night.
True, but more often than not it’s not about game. There will always be petty arguments, living in a house with 15 strangers, but I think because there is no game there are no arguments about game. I can’t tell if you agree or disagree with me.
I was just adding to what you were saying originally. So, yes, I was agreeing with. Sorry if it came off as combative/wrong.๐
It didn’t come off as combative, just kind of neutral, so no worries! I get what you are saying now though.
The biggest mistake so far was when Jessica didn’t use the POV and take Ramses off the block and put Paul up. At lease Paul or Josh would have been gone. But for now how long are Raven, Matt, Alex, Josh and Christmas going to do everything Paul tells them to do. During Josh’s HOV he kept saying he wanted Elena out. Did he rally to get Elena out, NO Paul wanted Jessica out so Jessica was voted out. The house guest need to get Paul out, otherwise he will win and he will deserve to win for controlling the house for so long.
Putting Paul up would have never been a good move. She didn’t have the numbers to take him down, the house as a whole is on Paul’s side, not Jessica’s.
Still if her target was Josh, he would’ve gone home.
So Jess would’ve atleast gotten an enemy out.
Putting Paul up would have guaranteed that Josh went home. I realize nobody would have vote to get Paul out.
I don’t believe she could put Paul up due to his safety that week or was he off from safety that week?
Have you noticed how much Cody resembles Tim McVeigh? Not only physically but in attitude. Probably similar psychological problem.
Whoa~ I’m not a Cody fan but that’s taking it too far imo. Back it up bro.
Compare pictures. Similar background. A cold non caring demeanor which changed somewhat after he returned and listened to Jessica. He has some symptoms of Aspergers syndrome.
Wow. You got that from what, six weeks on BB? You are good..NOT…”Pump the brakes” as Paul would say…lol
Does anyone know why ‘Christmas’ was excluded from playing in the last competition?? It was just walking to different boxes chalked on the pavement??? If she couldn’t play in that one, then BB should remove her from the show!!! She’s just taking chances away from the other House guests!!!
It was the last temptation comp. She elected to not participate.
Thanks for your reply..In my opinon SHE’S JUST FLYING BY…SHE SHOULD BE TAKEN OFF THE SHOW!!
Why? She got injured, by no fault of her own. She is still playing even though she can’t compete in any of the physical comps. She’s playing more than Raven….If you were on the show would you want to be taken off? I think not.
On ‘Survivor’ the players that can’t play the entire game are removed…and she can’t compete in certain competitions so that is not playing the entire game also…
Survivor is a completely different game. Survivor is ALL physical comps. It is on a beach, outdoors, in the elements. You can’t even make that comparison…at all…IMO
What does IMO mean??
In My Opinion
Christmas is ‘delirious’ if she thinks she made a ‘big move’!!! She’s following Paul like everyone else!! Mark is the target….and she had to put up 2 pawns that would have been the same if she put up a showmance couple…both would be the same!!
She chose not to play by drinking the red juice. Since they don’y know the comp head of time, if she would not have been able to participate she may have ended up being the third nominee.
Thanks for your reply…I watched the video again and saw that BB didn’t show her taking a drink….
Thanks for the explanation…In my opinion..She should not even have been brought back to the show…SHE HAS TOO MANY PASSES!!!
And they didn’t want Christmas as the third nominee (though she volunteered), because it would’ve made it easier for Cody to win veto if his name was picked.
Thanks for the reply….
I agree. It feels like Paul is pretty much the Derrick of this game…. which is a sad comparison because Derrick never into fights with anyone and Paul… well its Paul.
Heck, even the people who wanted to get Paul out (Dominique, Cody, Jessica) ended up shooting themselves in the foot.
I feel like none of them other than Paul or Cody want to play this game which is sad because as much as I’m not a fan of Cody, he’s ACTUALLY TRYING. Granted Cody is sucking due to his crap social game, but atleast he’s trying to fight for his life.
Only saving grace is Mark (who is ACTUALLY after Paul).
Matthew you are so right. I liked Alex in the beginning but cant stand her now. I don’t want Paul to win because he gets everyone to do his dirty work. Especially Josh. Christmas eggs Josh on too. Actually everyone eggs Josh on. But that day the whole house jumped Jody, Paul started that. That is bullying not part of the game. He just gets someone to do it so his hands are clean. Production worked hard to find these idiots. If production wants to keep fans happy they will find a way to flip the vote. House will be so boring when Cody leaves. Mark is not near as dramatic. I have enjoyed other seasons much more. Wish they had food comps.
I think food comps are there in the Canadian version
Honestly, I feel that the biggest mistake of the season was put Paul on this cast and give him a lot of advatages (the bracelets, the safety weeks, Raven); I had nothing against him returning, but the problem (from my perspective) is the next: this was not his season, put Paul on this cast was like put a Piranha on a tank full of guppies. Maybe the things could be different without him on the game. In the beginning I had some hopes on Alex for her speech of “I want to go after showmances” and she ended being an annoying follower; Matt and Raven, pff, well, I never had expectatives on Raven, but Matt, such a deception; Christmas, pre-game I had a tremendous hype about her, but once again, she’s another disappointment, and no, I’m not talking about her accident, players like Dr. Will prove that is not necessary win a lot of comps to win this, she has a lot of chances to make a move, but she sticks with Paul and the rest of the minions; and Jason, common’, I was rooting -a bit- for him the first week, but once again, he’s afraid to make a move and just go with the rest. This players will do something until they realize that they’re the target, as long as they’re not in jeopardy they don’t care, they’re just like Paul wants this, let’s do it. Honestly I was extremely excited for this cast, but as a spectator and a BB fan, I feel a litte bit disappointed to see the apathy of this cast.
NO ONE should win as of right now.
What happen to the day ( PERFORMING YOUR OWN FREAKING FUNERAL ONLY TO RISE FROM THE DEAD AND GET VETOED OFF THE BLOCK)
I miss the game play!! Just saying
I hate for any of them to win. Worst season ever, where did they find so many idiots?
All the Sheeple following Paul will get theirs. Only Mark is saying what everyone should be thinking: who would win if they were the final two with Paul.
Matt is too, just not to Mark…to Raven. Geeesh! And he then said, “I don’t care anymore! Maybe jury is better for us than being here.”
You’ve summarized it all the same way I have Branden! I was rooting for Alex to make that bold move twice now…but nope. Then Josh, nope. Alex didn’t put Paul up (she now needs him) so she put up Ramses and Dominique. Dom went home. Now she put up Elena and Jason (because she couldn’t get Mark) along with Matthew, Jason as a pawn. Why not Paul? She had no intention of nomming Cody or backdooring him, but look who’s up there that’s going home this week. Who cares about who’s lying to whom? It’s Big Brother…you do that in this game. If it weren’t for Paul, nobody would even know what true loyalty was and they wouldn’t be able to trust anyone because all of them would resort to lying and not need to call them on those lies.
They’re all so busy focused on everyone else now instead of Paul. WTG Paul! They’re also diagnosing their own teammates now. Once again, WTG Paul. Wake up sheeple! Every now and then they think about what Paul is doing, then go back to talking about the other hgs behind their backs about the other sheeple. Geesh!
Totally disagree that Jessica and Cody were/ are playing the game. Jessica gave up her game for a man she met 6 weeks ago and Cody has done nothing but screw over his “alliance” when he was HOH, then after that he merely hung out with Jessica, secluded himself from the rest of the house guests and was downright antisocial and nasty. Those two were never in step with anyone in the game except each other so in my book that’s terrible game play.
You got it! :-)
ANALYSIS: After around the second week I found something odd about the show. Not one but several ppl only cared about getting to jury. I wondered why would BB cast ppl not hungry to win?That hunger is what makes for a good show. CBS has the tools and skill to then edit accordingly which is why every year people tune in. They also have games to battle back, so even if you concede that only one could win it can still play on your mind that you can be that person even after being voted out.
Then there were a clear group, who were aware but new to the show and then others, who felt like actor playing a role. Those who felt like actors were the ones orbiting Paul as his armor of protection. Because even when it’s brought to their attention that Paul is a wall between them and the money, their concern was to shut that person down fast as if that person has seen the light and needs to be dealt with. I get the laws of conformity but it’s the manner in which people are conforming. Paul himself may be clueless of this set up and think he is just that good…which he is not because we have not seen any real ability to influence, strategize etc from Paul.
Then you have a massive network (CBS) calling for a new cast each year but result in choosing people they recruit or who are linked to persons already on the current show or past shows making up the bulk of the cast. Why bother having a casting call than to imply to viewers that everyone has a chance and the show is organic. Raven has admitted to knowing Paul and hanging out with him before the show. Who knows what kind of deals were struck? Not like CBS is auditing how money is spent after winning. And this is not a new thing. In recent seasons we have seen this kind of thing before. It’s fine if people have seen the show before and know how it works, it is then the onus of production to throw an unexpected situation to mess things up like my idea of the Secret HOH. Here it give the opportunity for controlled minions to act on their own and pass/fail at it..having us the viewers have an organic reaction to it. You will get your storyline and characters CBS, not the current mess of cookie cutters you seem to create.
I dislike vets mixed with newbies. It was obvious last year that jury were told how to vote for Nicole to win the$500k thereby angering fans so BB may have assumed just handing Paul the $500k this rounds make things ok. Well then CBS need to fire the person making that decision. Every new cast is a clean slate regardless of how the public felt in the past. So linking the seasons like one continuous story (unless it’s returning guests) ensures production to dig their own grave.
I do believe that production manipulates the show on the inside, but not on who wins the comps and ultimately gets saved (or not). It is why the cast can’t talk about what went down in the DR because we the audience will see how the magic act works. I think this season they’re very involved and as a result is leaving a sad taste in many mouths. It’s why I watch online so that they can’t get me as a rating to justify that they’ve done it right. I love the show, but organic casting makes for a unique one to be attached to year on yeAr. I like this years editing by eliminating useless scenes like HOH choosing keys for noms, long winded talking etc etc.
Paul , is a worm who sends others to bully and ridicule people, but he figured out early that these Einstein’s viewed him as a leader so they have all stopped playing and become little minions so by default Paul deserves the $500,000. I will change my vote if any minion (Alex, Josh, Jason, Christmas, Kevin, Raven or Matt) willingly put him up.
I am not enjoying big brother this time at all. Too much anger,ganging up on one or two. It’s suppose to be a game but its full of hate. Being puppets for the control freak Paul .. it is not fun to watch.
Then stop watching.
This season of Big Brother is truly sad and excruciating to watch. Why don’t these house guests just all go home now and write Paul a check. I don’t get these people, Cody and Jessica have the most sense out of this group. Sadly, that’s probably why they will soon be evicted back to back. If they had played dumb like everybody else, they would most likely still be in the house. Cody is actually trying to help these people by stating the obvious that all of America, other than the house guests, already know. It’s not that hard people, it really isn’t. I don’t know if I want anybody to win this game. Maybe Alex, Kevin or Paul.
Branden, your summary of each character was very good.
My favorites:
“Matt. Ummmm, no.”
“Raven. Absolutely NO.”
If I was Cody, during my exit speech, I would tell the house guests that whoever is sitting next to Paul in the finale would get my vote. I would also say if Paul was evicted before the finale, I would vote for that HOH. I would never give him the money. He is slime. Friendship my butt!
That would be a good speech for sure! However, for whatever strange reason these HG’s seem to want to have Paul win as well so I don’t know if that speech would work the way he wanted it to!
It’s so bad that once Mark and Elena are out, these HG’s are probably going to start volunteering to be evicted LOL
But that would be a great exit speech!
OK, seriously question here!!โฆโฆ
Is it just me or do other people see this!
Every time I see this picture, (glance at it) it looks like Paul etc. are holding a blowup doll!! (Alex) LOL I don’t know why I keep seeing that EVERY time I see this picture!
Maybe it’sโฆโฆ….. I don’t know what it is LOL
Is it just me? OR Do you see it also? Or (at the very least,) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/30540fd9502cb330ba71d85568cdff345653307d143212da86f7bf0e6f047bb2.jpg do you see what it is that I am seeing? ๐
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/45ffcf3492411b9e5f71072f1209b99fb99e177032d93b9967e697dd842d6cb7.jpg And another thing, Poor Mark has aged since he first walked into the BB house! This is what stress does to people! Avoided at all costs ๐
Very well said Branden!
Yes, Paul deserves to win but that’s ONLY b/c no one else does AT ALL!
I didn’t know Alex said she would rather win when she came back for a second season! That’s laughable! Sorry sweetie but there’s NO WAY you or ANYONE ELSE from this season (aside from Jessica) should EVER step anywhere near Big Brother!! STAY FAR FAR AWAY!!!! PLEASE!!!!
This season should not even exist once it’s over! Write it off the books!
If for Season 20 they bring back “All Stars” NO one from this season deserves to come back! (Aside from Jessica!) That’s it, that’s all!
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND what is up with this group of people!?! These HGS…….. What is it? Why is it? Is it casting? Is it production manipulation? Are these people really that stupid?
Do potential BB HG’s nowadays receive a lot of “endorsements” etc if they make it to the jury house and don’t win BB? Do they receive more than $500,000?? What is the deal??
Big Bro even casted an older group this season and that didn’t work. What do they need to do to get the cast back how it used to be!? Is it because they are recruiting people instead of just picking people from their casting auditions? I know one thing that would help, actually two! No more returning Vets & increase the prize money!
I just don’t get this season!
Here’s the problem with everyone saying they’re all “doing what Paul wants” every single time..their interests just happen to align with his interests every single time…and his strategies on how to execute each individual plan just happen to be the right strategies…when Cody made that gigantic, bold, stupid move at the very beginning of the game, turning on Paul and then putting Christmas up, it forced a situation where Cody had to be everyone’s biggest target and a threat to everyone…can’t trust him after that, period…Jessica just hitched her wagon to Cody and now here we are…once those two are completely out of the game, the house is going to be totally different…I know they are talking Mark now, but it’s not going to be that cut and dry…I actually think there are some good players in this bunch and they have had absolutely no reason whatsoever to play hard and fast and ruin their own games up to this point…why would you do something stupid to rock the boat when the person going home can’t help your game??? Mark and Elena could have benefited keeping Jody, and they knew it, but there was no way to pull it off and the very little amount of trying they did do has put their games in jeopardy…so, it has been smart so far to lie back and let this whole Cody/Jessica/Paul (sometimes Josh) mess finish up…now that THAT’S nearly done, it’s now time to play…all the people talking about how these houseguests are wanting to lose are exactly the type I’d love to play against…you play too hard early, you go home, just like Cody…the Cody’s and Paul’s of the game don’t win Big Brother…not anymore…and Paul won’t make it to Final 2 this year either…the Alex’s, Kevin’s and even the Matthew’s do win, though…just look at recent past results…float to the middle if you can, by all means, then swim hard and fast to the end…you have to still be there at the end to win
P.S. Cody has had all the help in the world, too, by the way…his team allowed him the first HoH (which he royally screwed up), he then got to get back in the game after being evicted (which was mentioned), he was the beneficiary of Jessica’s temptation power to be kept in the game and he even had a shield in Jessica to give him one more week than he should have had…just because you do something completely stupid week one, bold move or not, does not mean you are playing better than other people…I personally think it’s the exact opposite
They have every right to celebrate making it all the way to jury. That’s a big accomplishment. Every single sports team celebrates and sprays champagne all over each other in the locker room when they make the playoffs. That doesn’t mean they are going to win the championship. Pre-Jury is the regular season, and jury is the play-offs. I bet Cameron, Dom, and Ramses wish they could’ve been in jury.
I’m sorry Branden, but you don’t know Big Brother very well. You can call the jury Paul’s “minions” all you want, but Paul brought them all to jury. That’s a hell of a lot more than Cody can say. Cody only had one solid ride-or-die alliance member in Jessica to be responsible for, and he couldn’t take her jury. And Cody is about to be evicted for the 3rd time. Technically 2nd time, as the hex stopped him from getting evicted (but he was going to be evicted). So it payed off to align with Paul, than Cody. And to say that Cody deserves to win just because he made ballsy moves is ludicrous. You don’t win Big Brother by making big ballsy moves. You win by making a series of small, calculated moves. This is a game of chess, not checkers. It’s a marathon, not a sprint.
BB is a joke this year. Even Alex who everyone likes but me, has told Paul he deserves to win and she’s okay with second place, Are you kidding me? know one wants to win other than Paul. So give it to him and spare us all the boring details.
They all so badly that NO ONE should win second place.
This is a Paul only game all the other hg s are drinking all Paul’s Kool aid ! Boring , when Cody leaves just hand Paul the money . Worst BB season of the century… BB picked weak players just to pay Paul , it’s so obvious why even watch the show now….
I’m still holding out hope that someone will start taking shots at Paul. I don’t have any problem with Paul but I would like to see him have to dodge a couple bullets in this second half of the season if he’s gonna win it.
Jessica and Jody dry bumped for 40+ days so I don’t count that as game play. All they did was talk.toI each other about how kick ads they, were.yet when given tools by productions they failed big time. They rruined thea chance they were given by hooking up instead if manipulating other houseguests to align with them. Talk no action then complaining the entire time. Victims.of their own.ststupidity.
Cody was the only one who has the balls to take it to Paul…but his mental game gives a lot away. He’s just weak mentally. Paul on the other hand doesn’t even need to win HoH…he’s merely playing puppets to all his minions….it gets boring…and not to subtle…at least Derrick from Season 16 had to work to play everyone his game.
If I didn’t already know that PAUL (the Puppeteer) is going to win, I think MATT should win.
well when it come to the end if I was sitting next to paul you use the fact the paul ran the game and stab everyone in the back you just did what they were doing but made it to the end hope the votes go your way… if they were smart I would vote paul out and keep alex you just might win ,.,newtothis
I think the whole season has been fixed for Paul. Giving him three weeks of protection was a game changer. Big Brother asked us to vote and no one knew any of the houseguests so the contest was definitely rigged. Paul won and the rest is history. Big Brother then allowed Christmas to stay in the game. She can not win any competition requiring endurance and it is so terribly unfair to give her a power that she takes and then can not even play in the veto. I do believe the game was fixed in favor of Paul winning. I also think that production should have stepped in with Josh and his terrible behavior. The instigator is always Paul and the idiot Josh does whatever he tells him to do. Worst season ever. I have been a fan since the beginning and this was terrible behavior on the part of some of these people. Whoever did the selecting should be fired. Right now I stopped tapping and I don’t think I will be watching this season anymore. With what was done to Cody by these horrible people is just not right. This is game and people have feelings and cruel people are rewarded…..
This season has turned into a game of watching to see if anyone has brains. It is so boring, though, Mark was my favorite person. I hated Cody too much to want him to win, after, his whole, I am better than everyone else attitude. Paul should win the game, because, no one else is playing the game. Mark had a chance to turn the game around with Jason. Yet, Jason, had not guts or brains to play his own game. This is the problem with this house, this season, everyone is handing the game to Paul. I keep hoping someone will make it interesting! Mark, Cody, Paul, and Jessica were the only ones playing the game.
I can’t believe how stupid these bb19 players are. I am literally watching the show to see if anyone will get a brain to Paul’s game. I do not think Paul is such a great player, only, that, the players are so stupid. The only ones with a little common sense this season have been Cody, Jessica, Mark, and, Jason. The problem is they have never had the numbers to do anything about it. Everyone is giving the game to Paul. As I said I do not think he is playing a great game, it’s just these players are so damn scared and stupid to play this season. Jason is the only one of the mob, that, has taking any risks, though, they have been to minor, and, too late to make the moves. I am literally only watching hoping for someone to catch on.
Nope, Jason is stupid, as well. He did not take the stupid apple!