There is also the obvious accomplishment that everyone had been talking about. Austin went almost 80 days in the house without ever being nominated. A very impressive statistic in the Big Brother house, especially considering the fact that there was a “Battle of the Block” for the first few weeks.
So what will happen if we get the ultimate showdown with Austin and Vanessa both in the final two? Well, lets break it down. Barring any major setback, Austin would have both Julia and Liz’s vote. Meg had said in an interview that she would not vote for Steven or Vanessa, so he has her vote. I think James would vote with Meg so there’s four.
Austin would then only need Jackie, or Becky to vote for him both of them were not very big fans of Vanessa in the house. However, I do think Johnny Mac, Steven, and Shellie would vote for Vanessa so if Austin slips up in a final speech, she could capitalize and convince enough of them that she is more deserving.
Keep in mind, all of this speculation is great, but if Austin or Vanessa do not win this next HOH, either one of them are liable to go home. They have both been playing the two sides of the house and as much as it seems plausible that they should make it to the final two, it is just as likely that one of them could go home next week.
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It was the ONLY move to make~
It had to be done.
It wasn’t a Clay move. LOL!!! Of course Clay didn’t even win the damn PoV but he did throw himself on the sword unlike Austin. But agreed if Austin had used PoV on Liz that would have been the stupidest move in the game so far along with Clay’s.
I would have loved to see Vanessa try to manipulate Derrick..
To see her try and fail miserably would make my day.
That would be when the all stars happens, Derrick would mop the floor with Vanessa.
I would have loved to see Derrick try to manipulate Vanessa. Wouldn’t happen.
He’s too intelligent to waste his time trying. He would just manipulate the others into getting her out. He would have used her if he saw any benefit to it then she would have been gone as soon as she wasn’t useful to his game.
He wouldn’t need to manipulate her. Derrick would have read her instantly, knew she needed to go, and would have talked someone else into getting her out. Did you miss last season?
My point exactly…
Why would we assume that Derrick would be the better mind reader in this scenario? I think Vanessa might also be able to see through Derrick. If she were in the BB16 house, she might be the only one to tell that Derrick is actually a cop
Yes, but IMO Derrick would have been easily able to tell Van was a poker pro too.
Vanessa doesn’t mind read, she guesses. She’s come up with so many theories it’s unbelievable. Sure she gets a few right, because if you throw enough mud on the wall, some is bound to stick.
Derrick did all of his work with mainly two people and I don’t think Cody or Victoria would have ever thrown him under the bus for Vanessa. She would have tried to mess up his game and voted out a lot sooner. Probably before Jury.
She cries and makes deals with everyone.
Derrick would have outed Vanessa as the poor player she actually is. No one with that obvious and reckless a game would make it past Derrick. Even Howie could probably pick up on Vanessa’s game.
This just in. Final 2 is Julia and John.
And the winner is John!
Derrick, you are being too kind. Vanessa may indeed win, but that will not make her one of the great players.
In the land of the blind, the man with one eye is king. That’s all this is. She’s in there with a bunch of terrible and timid players. She has made a ton of mistakes that would have gotten her booted in better casts. IMO she loses every season, except maybe BB9 or BB15
I agree. She is playing a reckless game. Even her suggestion to Julia to pick Austin was out in the open and an obvious sign she is against Austwins. Only complete morons would not see that immediately. Julia proved she is a complete moron. But neither Austin or Liz figured it out right away either. When Vanessa convinced Liz to turn against Austin she exploited the genetic stupidity of Julia’s sister too. Again, why would Julia trust Vanessa over a guy she has been groping for the past 70 days or so? And Austin, the fact that she questioned you and not Vanessa, does this mean anything to you?
That too was reckless and in fact it has exposed her and her game. The twins and JMac all know that Vanessa has final 2 deals with everyone in the house. The only one in the dark is Steve and I think he will find out soon enough.
In any other BB house I am certain Vanessa would have been exposed and evicted for her reckless game play, like Jeff and Audrey were this season. But in this house, Vanessa always escapes because the players are not playing to win. Austin knows if Vanessa makes it to F2 she wins. He discussed it with JMac, Yet Austin wants Steve out 1st before Vanessa. Its unbelievable!
SMH!!
I have not read anything credible that Austin wants Steve out before Vanessa. Liz says she wants Steve out, but I think Austin will temper Liz’s rage if she wins HOH.
Vanessa has made it this far in the game because, for the most part, she has aligned her interests with the interests of the dominant alliance (of which she is a member).
Until this point in the game, why would the Austwins want to target her? Why would JMac or Steve?
People commenting on these forums may have wanted Vanessa gone, but that means less than nothing to the people who are actually playing the game!
Who should have stayed instead of Vanessa? The Goblins? Please, they had no clue what was going on the entire time they were in the house!
The general, Becky? She was so unaware of how to play the game, she missed her target and got herself evicted the following week.
Jason? He couldn’t keep his mouth shut!
Going all the way back to Shelli? Basically she got evicted because she felt people weren’t enthusiastic enough when Clay won a veto! Everything went down hill from there. It bottomed out for her during her eviction week when she basically got evicted because she was petty enough to steal Clay’s shirt from James.
So again I ask, who should have stayed instead of Vanessa?
You mean the two people who thought sigmund freud was a magician are morons?
I wish the real “Siegfried and Roy” would kidnap Vanessa today, put her in their show tonight and make her disappear!
derrick was also in a house full of idiots
He was, but his game play was much much better. I am sure he made some mistakes, but I can’t remember any big issues. His game was very clean. I don’t think that he is the best player, he’s up there, but I have him 3rd. However, I do think he has played the most perfect game of anyone. I would love to see how he would have done against good competition because I feel like he still would have won, but it’s probably to late to try again since everyone would know him now. Vanessa against good competition would have no shot at winning with her very reckless game play.
Derrick’s game was a joy to watch. Flawless.
I don’t agree. There were people last year that I liked. I loved Frankie. That POV he won by himself was legendary. I think that I just got him.
She’s a genuine sociopath who happens to be surrounded by people who can’t doing anything about it. The way she broke up Liz and Austin to avoid going up on the block, then got them back together after, was a master class in manipulation. When she was crying in the bathroom, I was in awe and disgusted.
Derrick why is your picture on here in black and white? you werent voted out so ??
Becky and James were the only HOH winners that did not hand their keys to Vanessa and that is why they are both out of the house. I would like John to win this game, but whoever gets rid of Vanessa should win.
J Mac will take Vanessa down. That’s all he has been waiting for.
My thoughts exactly.
I believe that this is why he was hugging on her. Kiss good bye. €:^)
If Vanessa does not win HOH tonight and she does not get put on the block then whoever is HOH should get counselling.
LOLOL! The casting people has, brilliantly, casted a bunch of effin nutbars this year; it has been a wonderful mess. I think that having Audrey would create a stir; who knew that she’d just be a terrible player and get evicted because she deserved it? Social progress! I really thought that Clay would run out screaming that first episode when she announced that she was trans; his face was what reality show dreams are made of. What I don’t get is how he has never met a trans person? He’s had to play ball in big cities and was scouted in L.A. Trans people are not unicorns! This isn’t the 1950’s. I’m born and raised in NYC and a lifelong Nyer so maybe I’m just used to seeing people from all walks of life but he knows that trans people exist. His face was hilarious.
From everything I been reading people say it’s fixed for Vanessa to win to help support her new tv show , I know it’s said every season and has always proofed to be not true, I guess if she wins people will believe it to be true this season, I believe the other players were just total idiots and were easily manipulated by Vanessa.
New tv show? This chick has a pilot scheduled ? A reality pilot? Really? I don’t think it’s fixed. I have watched work these people over. It has been pimpish, in the purest sense of the word; like a pimp would and I don’t think pimps are cool. I’m not using that in the colloquial sense. These people fall for what she does, go along with it, compare notes, figure it out, hate it bshe still gets what she wants. Whoever is able to take her out would get my vote. I think Austin may be her biggest threat and, oddly, Steve. As a viewer, Steve taking her out would be a fairy tale and like the final act of Macbeth. But who knows, with thhis bunch. They have defied logic so many times that I am exhausted.
This is the week if Vanessa or JMac doesn’t win HOH I think she’ll be gone. I don’t think JMac will put her up unless one of his noms wins POV then she’ll go up over Steve. If Austin or Liz win I think Steve and Vanessa go up.
Agree. I’m really hoping that these people don’t keep Liz, though. I just can’t take watching anymore of her and Austin together. The two of them are just hard to watch. And, I want to see Austin use his brain and see who he is as a player without the Liz distraction. I feel the same for Julia as well. They both seem to be deeper wells than what they appear to be.
This is on point, as always. I’ve noticed and have maintained most of what you are saying (though, I can’t say that I agree that Austin’s game has been great this season; he imbedded himself behind Liz and human shielded his way through alot of the game. It was clear that he was holdinf back in comps but, him explaining the game to Liz doesn’t justify him not digging in, the way Vanessa has). I have tried to figure the votes for myself and got a bit lost. Liz & Julia and James & Meg seem to be only two votes but the others are murkier. I just hope that these people vote with the game play in mind and not ’emotionally’ as Vanessa would say (I love that she has been grooming them by constantly saying that all season; she fail safed her game with that justification in case people are bitter). She’s a scary beast.
Rick Monroe you are so right about James.
I think Derrick may be off on his vote count for Austin, in one case
he’s giving both Liz & Julia votes, only 1 is assured of Jury duty at this point,
in another he’s got Meg voting Austin b/c she said she wouldn’t vote Van
or Steve, no way we know one of them is in F2. Plus he reasons James would vote the same as Meg, that may not happen.
Maybe Derrick didn’t have much time to think this one out, it’s not like he’s competing for 1/2M.
Austin 80 days w/o being nomed is impressive but don’t he barely avoided the re-nom & being BD’d in Week 5.
By the way Derrick blogs have been pretty spot on and he’s correct that Austin & Vanessa had the smart moves this week, you almost wouldn’t have known it was Steve’s HoH, crap in a way it wasn’t.
Derrick is a much better player than Vanessa. He went through the whole season without ever being on the block!
and he didn’t need to cry lol