Big Brother 17 Week 12.5 Veto Ceremony:
- Vanessa saves herself, Liz is renom’d
This will be a quick and painful eviction. Out in the open with no need to go into the DR we’ll find out who is going to walk out the door to the Jury.
Big Brother 17 Week 12.5 Eviction Votes:
- Vanessa evicts John.
Vanessa said she couldn’t keep John in with his “game long” alliance with Steve. They did not have a game long alliance. John heads out and tells Julie he would have voted Vanessa out if he had the chance. He also regrets keeping Steve so Vanessa would have had to split up the showmance this round instead of targeting him. Yeah.
This part of the final HoH comp will be an endurance battle and the 3 remaining HGs will face off for a chance to move on to the third round. The two HGs who lose this round will face off in part two for a second chance and the winner there will meet this round’s winner in the final part.
Big Brother 17 Final HoH – Round 1:
Tonight’s show ended without the launch of the endurance competition as we often see. Hmm. Well that stinks. We’re now waiting for the Feeds to return and find out what will happen. The news ticker on Feeds says we’ll get to start watching soon, but Feeds are back and HGs are still in fancy clothes. Hopefully it’ll start soon.
BB17 wraps up on September 23, 2015 with a 90-minute season finale following the debut of Survivor 2015. One of these remaining four Houseguests will walk away with a half-million dollars.
I’ll eat crow if needed, but I’d assume this will be Jmacs last hours in the house.
I hope you’re wrong. A nice Chardonnay would be lovely with crow.
I am eating crow saying he wouldn’t be evicted over Liz! So now I can finally say, Go Girl Power! :-)
You cannot eat crow if the show is fixed!
Julie: Ladies and Gentlemen the first Lesbian to win Big Brother US -Vanessa.
Vanessa: Thank you Julie and can I say you look very yummy tonight.
Julie: Thanks Vanessa. Let’s start out by asking how do you feel?
Vanessa: Wonderful. Another 1/2 million in the pocket.
Julie: Oh yes. How difficult was it to win?
Vanessa: Not too hard when you have puppets like I had in the house.
Julie: Some people say you were a bully, liar, you always cried. What do you have to say to those people?
Vanessa: Well this is Big Brother right? Let’s start with the crying. It was all fake and part of the game is to gain sympathy from people inside the house. I was playing for a 1/2 million right? I wasn’t playing to be America’s favorite player. The bullying, does anyone remember the antics of Evil Dick. The lying does anyone remember Dan lying to Danielle that he would never evict Shane. The people who watch Big Brother have short memories.
Julie: Do you think people don’t like you because you are a Lesbian?
Vanessa: People will say it has nothing to with my sexuality. But I believe it does. If I was like the girl next door people would be rooting for me like crazy. Since I love women, I don’t fit into the norm.
Julie: People thought you were crazy and acted out too much. They also think you will not have any opportunities coming out of the house. What do you have to say about that.
Vanessa: Well I think there are many opportunities, but first I just want to get a nice hotel with my girlfriend and celebrate. Then it’s off to the amazing race with my girl and back to Big Brother Allstars where I will be the first double winner.
Julie: Well thank you Vanessa and you should be proud for all the Lesbians out there.
Vanessa: Thank you Julie. I am. You are more than welcome to join my girl and me.
Julie: Thank you Vanessa, but I’m married.
Vanessa: So was I.
I hope that Van Azaela evict Liz…
I refuse to give up hope ~~ John for the WIN~
I’m with you, Cuddles. I’m hoping he does his reverse, reverse, reverse psychology on Vanessa.
If John can convince Vanessa that Liz is a big threat, Vanessa could evict she.
Jmac must make it!!!!!!! Then him and Steve take out vanessa!!!!!!!
Which is exactly why I think VanEvil keeps Liz-uh, for now. She is aware that Johnny and Steve would take each other over her if she doesn’t win HoH again.
Can anyone tell me the pay scale for the HG? I’d like to know what my poor James is getting since JMac will go to jury and win the $25,000.
I just answered you in the other thread.
Sorry. That thread was gone when I rebooted my computer.
OK, here it is: “Each player get $1000 a week. So Jace made $2000. All the jury member will be there the full 14 weeks, so they get $14000. And that’s on top of any other price money.”
Exactly. Becky will get $24,000 since she won two $5,000 prizes during comps.
Yes.
Oh yeh, forgot other one she won! LOL
Thank you. I feel good with him getting $14,000. That will go a long way. I know he only makes $21,000 a year. John will definitely win the $25,000.
Think so too.
He will for sure now that he didn’t make F3. If we would have made F2, think James would’ve won AFP.
$21,000? He’s a dentist. His salary is easily in the $100,000’s. $21,000 is an understatement for a dentist as well as an insult.
Definitely JMac didn’t do BB for the $14000 he is getting. He really was trying for the $500K.
So Becky being the only one to win prize money will get 19k!
I thought she won $5000 twice.
She did, forgot about the Veto comp she won other than Slip n Slide!
Yeap, so that’s $24000 for Becky. And Meg won a boat party with that football player from a team I won’t name.
He won my heart when getting the Espy award…I didn’t care what team he played for. He got an injury that most don’t come back from! So I applaud him for that much.
I couldn’t care less. Really. I never say the H word. I HATE the Cheatriots.
I don’t have an opinion one way or another on Football teams, except when the Colts go to Superbowl against the Bears…then I’m fired up…Me against Hubby! LOL
I’d loved to be a fly on the wall…… LOL
Last time the Colts beat them in Superbowl, I wouldn’t let hubby sit on same sofa with me…son sat next to hubby then wanted to switch sides when Bears started losing. Told him I don’t tolerate Indian Givers! He was told to stay put! LOL
LOL
GRONK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes it is the football player from a team I won’t name.
Meg won Gronk cruise and Clay won trip to Ireland!
Just for the record, I’m joining Cyril and Matt S. This is the worse BB ever, I hate it and I will never watch BB again.
Well, that’s the last straw for me. I’m not doing this without you guys. So I guess I make..
Me four.
LOL
The Canadian #5! Even tho BB Can is lame the house guests have better game play! The house guests don’t all vote the same way to begin with. That’s just sheeps play!!
Right on Capt..My last season..Also I may add, if JMac is evicted, it’s rigged, and if he’s safe, then I don’t believe it’s rigged.
OH gee, I forgot the rigged part.
I’m getting ready for a disappointing outcome. But I’ll NEVER quit watching.
I’m too hooked and curious to! LOL
If Vanessa wins its rigged. If Steve wins its rigged. If Liz wins its rigged. What the hell the whole friggin show is rigged.
Lol! You said it, girl. You know it.
LOL!!!
LOL!!!
ROFL Lavendargirl!!
Well with Johnny out it’s definitely rigged now lol.
Hah you got that right.
LOL!!!
But seriously. earlier halfway thru the season, I said this one start to look like not the worse but certainly not even close to been the best. I gave it, at the time, a score of 9 on a 1 to 17 scale. Well I have to admit that this look more like a 3 now. And if Vanessa win, I’m giving it a 2.
lol.oh Capt. 2 really?
BB15 been the worse. Hard to go lower than that. I mean, come on, all the stupid move we saw this year. It’s mind blowing how bad these people are playing.
I strongly agree.
Guess I’ll refrain from giving my score! LOL
Go ahead, I want to read your take.
My favorite left the building too early. I was rooting for Audrey…thought she’d outbest Van. So I give it a 3 out of 10…0 being the worst.
Pretty close to what I think.
I came in late to BB and didn’t start until Season 12. So far, no season has matched that one. The Brigade, no matter how lame the “Meow Meow” was, was actually effective and loyal all the way to the end. That was the best alliance I have seen. Closely following 12 was BB14… holy crap watching Ian get Boogie out was amazing… and then Ian won!
Derrick played an awesome game last year. But that season was “meh” at best. BB15 just sucked. I almost quit watching because of BB15.
This season, Vanessa did not play a good game. Everyone else simply played a bad game. That’s all there is to it. James and Meg went against Becky, stupidly. They all knew Vanessa was manipulative. They all knew that she was trouble… but they decided to vote out Shelli instead? “Vanessa has a target on her and we can get her out next week”. Look who all is in the Jury house, now. Vanessa isn’t some genius player. In any other season, her bullying and crying would have gotten her kicked out very early.
/sigh
/endrant
Good analysis.
Jmac doesn’t deserve to win, but neither does Vanessa or Steve they r all wicked in my opinion. Who is 2 say that Jmac win the 25G’s it is all up to the people to decide.
But Liz isn’t wicked?
Yep, you’re right. People will vote in a majority that JMac is the AFP.
I voted for James as AFP…from one prankster to another!
I’m pretty sure James is well like and sure will finish second.
Yeh…my luck has never been good! LOL
Haha bye
Any hope?..superwoman? lol
I doubt it. I’ll be crying in my cocktail.
You’ll get mascara in it! LOL
Why do people say they will never watch a show again, but once the summer comes rolling around again, they’re right in front of the TV with a bowl of popcorn and a huge grin on their face?
I did that with ANTM, said I wasn’t going to watch anymore because of how crappy it’s gotten…but I was right back there when season 22 premiered.
1st I don’t eat popcorn. 2nd smile.
1st, I was just generalizing. 2nd, I meant to say grin.
Ok, so you did get the joke.
You’re funny !!
You’re new in this board right? ..You believe us? lol
You wouldn’t lie to me would you David?
David don’t lie..homie don’t play that game.
Cycle 22 has been pretty good, surprisingly.
Not really. The cycles have gone downhill once they started having guys. Now it’s all about forming romantic relationships. The show is called America’s Next Top Model, not America’s Next Top Relationship. The boys this season are so annoying. The girls aren’t much better.
I wish it would go back to all girls and start focusing on actual modeling again.
CYCLE 5, rip.
I don’t know about that. Robyn from Cycle 1 made sure to throw the modeling part away from the very first year with that prayer circle she did that made Ebony roll her eyes on camera.
That season was pure entertainment. I’ll never forget that moment. Now, all the show seems to focus on is drama. Also, Devin and Mikey are getting a lot of screentime, does this mean they make it very far?
They are experienced models so unless they get a bad photo, they’ll reach the end for sure. I can’t be mad at them if they can deliver.
I guess you can’t…you’re right. But seriously, you can’t deny that the cycles have gone downhill.
Just when the recent cycles went “downhill”, many of its alumni are getting actual modeling jobs these days, probably more so than from those coming from earlier seasons.
I will say this..it is the first year I have not had a favorite. I haven’t posted as much this year as I have in the past. Guess that has to mean something, right?
As much as I say I will quit, I’ve been watching this show since season 2…there’s no way I can stop now. It’s like Survivor, nomatter how bad it gets I’ll still hang on!
I know, I was just making fun of people who say that all the time.
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I hope you will join us during the Survivor show at
survivorfandom dot com
.
Same host than here and me, Cyril and LG for a barrel of laugh.
Can’t wait for Survivor. Should be a good season
Give it a try: survivorfandom dot com. We will be there.
I’m gonna make it for a change. Haven’t seen it since that girl from Facts of Life was on it.
See you next wednesday. 20:00 Hres (8:00 pm for you)
I’ll be there. Got to be better than BB. Don’t care who wins now jMac is out.
Absolutely! Can’t wait for Wednesday!!!! :D
Don’t say that … yet. If Season 18 is an All-Stars and Vanessa is part of it, wouldn’t you watch it to see how real players would make mincemeat out of her?
That is what I read somewhere. If they do not make it an All Stars, TV viewers will just tune out. We have had 3 years of very bad casting. I am ready to bailout myself. Have stopped watching DWTS a long time ago and do not even miss it. Lots of good TV series like Suits, Blacklist and Game of Thrones to entertain me including, MLB TV. Whoever is in charge needs to get fired. If you do not do your job, will your employer continue to pay for your services? I am glad Survivor is starting up on Sept 23 and I had a vote in the tribe members returning. A few do nothing floaters like Kaz and Shirin got voted back in but, majority of the others will play the game. That is all the viewers want and expect and is not asking too much. It should be a very good season!
I’m done watching after this season too…until next season starts…lol
LOL
Les is hoping next season will be much, much better, so I’m coming back!
That’s right, even Les admitted this was a bad season.
I wonder if a bold faced lie to Vanessa would have worked. Johnny Mac could go to Liz and in a sly way, mention him and her in F2 or even working together in some way at all. If she agrees (even just to agree and not even mean it), JM could then go to Vanessa and let it slip Liz is open to working with him. If Vanessa thinks there’s ba chance for them working together in any way, maybe she would vote out Liz. A long shot but it’s something.
Their all dressed up. I thought first part is physical?
Vanessa! Whoo! Whoo! She knows what she’s doing! Win this!
LOL
OMG..Good player, If she didn’t do too much of this emotional BS, maybe I will like her.
It’s too much. I can’t put up with that.
I hope Liz or Steve win final comp and kick that lying biatch out.
I don’t like anyone except for JMAC. I hope he is AFP.
Me too!
Me too Emma. He will be.
Liz will take Vanessa. she has said many times that she wants a female to win this season, not to mention how much she dislikes Steve
Maybe but Steve will take Liz. I also could see Liz saying for Austin I evict you Vanessa. That would be hilarious.
LG, I’m kinda getting the idea that you’re not a fan of Vanessa….
Nope don’t like bully’s.
I can’t stand them either…in fact, if you look waaay up above, you’ll see that I have interjected a statement between you and someone who shall remain nameless. It’s all in capital letters. Can’t miss it.
I did see that. Thanks. I’m very passionate about my opinions but also a very kind and compassionate person. I love making a smart a$$ joke and love when people make it right back. That’s why I love Cyril and Captain so much they have a good sense of humor and get me. It takes a lot to get me going but when people comment to me and make it personal and not about the game it ticks me off. Sometimes I might say a little too much though. Lol. Guess I need to have a few cocktails before coming here.
I know you’re kind and compassionate—it shows through your relationships with your friends. And I love that you’re smart a** because I’m one myself! I haven’t had as much fun this year because of the ‘those who shall remain nameless’. Listen, I’ve gotten into screaming matches this year, and I am NOT a confrontational person. I HATE it. So, I totally get your passion. Keep it coming! And I don’t care how many times a certain person denies it—Van is a BULLY. :)
:-)
Anybody have time warner cable? For some reason they aren’t showing big brother tonight….! Please help!
Go to Hamsterwatch dot com, on the left, further down, he has some link to a few streaming site.
Okay so this clears up the whole cloud of mystery. John did know and was in on the plan to have Steve throw the Veto. Oh well.
Why? I mean Steve could have saved JMac..and surprised Vanessa. Um…smh
Keep the bucket close by. I know somebody will need it soon.
My stomach is already upset. I have back up, buckets. :X
If John knew beforehand, he could have told Steve right away to fight hard for the Veto because Vanessa might convince him to throw it. I guess he didn’t and she did.
What’s clears it up? It looked like Steve blew it.
It clears up what went on that led to Vanessa winning. But as far as Steven “throwing” the veto as he claimed he had last night, we did not see anything that suggests as such.
Poor JMAC. So lovable and yet so terrible at this game :(
Vanessa’s game guys
Ohh, Julia…the sweeter twin.
Yeah, Meg, you shouldn’t be talking. Julia did win a veto. Meg won what?
Still love you, Meg.
BOTB. :)
With Jason, no less.
meg won the hearts of most of the hg’s. lol
I love those reactions from the jury when the evicted houseguest arrives. Love it!
I just want Vanessa to STFU! She swore on Mel!
Yeah, she does that. A lot.
She turns the waterworks on and off very quickly.
That should tell you that it’s strategy.
Well, Matt in season 12 swore on his ‘sick’ wife.
She’s playing the game. They all lie.
She sure does. So much for her phoney integrity.
Exactly…SHELLI! What I’ve been telling some of these people on here! Vanessa’s still in the house.
I hope the jury has brains and decided no way Vanessa will you get any votes. Yet, she keeps getting a pass. Barf
Share your bucket with me.
Here ya go. Pass it on.
Is that your thing now? Wait till someone else comments on my post and then you comment?
Go on ahead and not reply. That’s your thing.
Excuse me you know absolutely nothing you ignorant big mouth. Emma and I happen to be friends. Which you would know if you weren’t just trolling to contradict everyone. And the bucket is a long standing joke.
I’m not trolling. I’m not ignorant. I realize the joke with the bucket. I’ve heard that phrase hundreds of times now on this board.
I only posted that because it seems that every time I post something and someone else comments, then you comment.
Starting to call me names now, huh? You’re no better than the hate you Vanessa haters were spewing on her.
If you weren’t ignorant then you would of realized I was commenting to Emma about what she said. You had to stick your nose into it. Your not worth wasting my comments on. When you grow up come back.
You’re as in you are, not your. Just saying.
Give her a break she’s in an argument. Just enjoy it!
Lol
lmao..I know!..I’m actually not watching BB. I’m reading here.
Exactly!!
Hah “you’re” so bad.
I don’t care about spelling/grammar etc..Go on LG find somebody here..BB is boring now anyway.
Will you take over for me?
I’m busy..watching GOP debate, BB and I’m here BBN..sorry.
Haha I’m taping the debate and I missed half of BB. Got that on my DVR too.
Me too! And laughing with the ladies. .
Had to pause the tv and watch the nook as comments come in. Ha ha…grammar police!!
LOL!!
And my iPad finishes a lot of the words for me. I usually double check but not always. Is that good enough for you grammar police?
Nope.
I realize what you were doing. I wasn’t commenting about the bucket thing. If that one thing makes me ignorant…then nobody can please you…
I’m not going anywhere, despite your condescending nature. I will not be silenced.
I do still have some growing up to do, after all…I’m only 21. You’re right about that.
OH MY FREAKING GOD!!!
Yeah were going to have a real argument here. OMG!!
LOL!
Watch out…you spelled “we’re” wrong…
Yeah my nook pad usually auto corrects. Guess its in a hurry!
Only it didn’t change its to it is. The grammar police will get me!
Sorry for the all caps…we need an arbitrator here. lol
lol..rooookie
Yes, I am a rookie. Proud of it! This is my first time watching the season as it’s been going on. I have seen previous seasons however.
Ok..I understand, but you need to relax a lil bit sometimes. We do have inside jokes here among friends.
You’ve got friends?
No..I hate them all…but..mama my Sharona
;)
Haha
I am relaxed. To clarify, I wasn’t commenting on the bucket thing. I was commenting on the fact that Lavendargirl seems to only comment on my posts when others have already commented. She said she wasn’t ‘talking to me anymore.’
What is the problem with Lavendargirl commenting on your posts after someone else has? I’ve done that and no one has bothered me with it? Also, WTH is with this BUCKET? Inside joke aside…. Bantering with Lavendargirl or anyone else aside….
Cyril, I don’t want you to get in any trouble, but I want to remind you that our Cuddles is having her cancer surgery tomorrow (11/30)…it’s not a secret as she posted it on Wed. evening. If you’re a spiritual person, please pray for her…to give the doctor guidance and wisdom; and for healing. If you’re not into prayer, please send healing wishes her way. I know she’d appreciate it. I hope she still knows that we love her. Thanks my dear friend.
Hey you…I’m sitting here wondering what on earth I did that upset her so much? In that ‘secret’ post between you and me, I said I adored her! She sent me a note that said to stop butting in, and that I seem to show up in the past present and future…I’ve been emailing her for months and sending e-cards, and all that went to hell because I sent that note to you in the past—the way I’m doing now. You needn’t reply. I just wanted to get this off my chest because I honest-to-God don’t know what I did! She won’t respond to any of my comments…unless they’re sarcastic. Thanks for listening, Cyril. I’m sitting here, crying, knowing she’s having surgery and knowing she doesn’t even want my prayers. She’s made that clear. Talk to you later.
This is what I was talking about in the Survivor post last night (see above). Everyone keeps asking me if I’ve heard from Cuddles, and I say, “No, but I doubt I will. At least not for a while anyway.” What am I supposed to say? That for some reason she’s infuriated with me? Do YOU know what I said? I emailed her over and over again…but she just kept telling me to leave her alone. I should just say, “Oh well…whatever.” , but that’s not who I am. I care about her. Oh well. Whatever. If she wants to warm back up to me, she will. I’m just sorry I dragged you into this. Honestly though, what did I do? Anyhoo, take care. Oh! It was nice to hear from K…at least briefly. Wish she’d stayed for the whole show.
Oh I got it…Don’t worry about it. Just say, you haven’t heard from her..period. They ask why?..say “I don’t know” lol.You’re very respectful..just continue that attitude.
I see you’ve been absolved. If anyone else’s eyes see this, good. I’d like you to. All I’ve done is keep asking people to pray for Cuddles. That’s all. Have I done anything wrong? Notice how I’m being ignored? That’s OK…it does hurt, but all I wanted was for her to feel better. If you get this Cyril, delete it when you’ve read it.
It’s ok..We know what you are trying to do..it’s all good….then why don’t you just pray for me?…I’m trying to get this big loan.lol. (you can delete your post, I can’t)
It beaks my heart.
Brains… You must have missed the past couple months of the show.. As for brains, I think they all thought someone said train not brain and hopped a ride on first one through.
Good one keep going.
Well said..
Well said..
Mark my words. If Vanessa gets to Final 2, pop the champagne, she has won $500,000.00. Despite, all talk of a bitter jury, Vanessa still has these guys in the palm of her hands. Like hostages, as in Patty Hearst, remember the term Stockholm syndrome? This jury will be more than happy to give it to Vanessa because she played the best game and they still love her! They are not going to give that $500,000.00 to Liz or Steve.
Rachel’s much prettier now.
Agreed! I think it’s because her hair has faded! Can’t dye it while prego.
You can still color it
Oh, I thought it wasn’t advised for some reason
BBB!
Who didn’t know she was pregnant? She looks exhausted
Everybody on twitter seems to know.
I knew it was going to be a baby announcement.
And I agree Brendon,he’s said exactly what I feel. JMAC is funny,but he doesn’t to win it all yet.
I can’t believe…..
Liz said to Vaneesa about Austin eviction: It was so fast. I couldn’t kiss or cry. I was show shocked. Really she wasn’t expecting that one of them could go at any time now!!??
They look so hilarious in those outfits.
That was so sweet of production. Such a cute onesie!
I’ll say once more, I don’t think Vanessa is worried about jury votes.
Judas thought he would still have a say in matter and its obvious to even him, that he’s alone in his thoughts.
You see Shelli got him to shut up very quickly.
The look on his face summed it up nicely. Clueless!
I feel as if Austin thinks he has a voice of power to influence these people. Definitely not a respected as he thinks
Who can respect him? He wasn’t wearing shoes!
……ok that was lame! Lol
Wow. They actually changed the F4 Veto. Yes, we’ve seen this comp before, but it’s not the one they usually use for F4.
A little bit too much mustard on that hot dog.
That’s thowing it ???????
Looks like he just got confused and lost track of time.
I think Steve is confuse a lot.
Vanessa! Vanessa! Vanessa! Final 3, yeah!
That was so not throwing it. It was all in Steve’s head.
With a comp, like that. How can you throw it? They couldn’t see each other. There was no way that Steve would’ve known how Vanessa was doing…right?
No way. I guess losing track of time is considered “throwing” for him.
To throw it, you just need to drag your feet.
Maybe we misinterpreted him, he could have been saying “I blew it”
Perhaps. There’s still a lot of footage we didn’t see between Sunday and Tuesday but I think we can assume that there was no hint during the veto comp that Steve intentionally took himself out of the challenge.
Ummm didn’t someone say they “threw” the veto. Oh boy…
Yes Steve said it when he was having a nervous breakdown. What was up with him saying that?
Steve lies to the camera. He’s full of it. I’m over him. Liz & Vanessa for F2
Steve lies to the camera. He’s full of it. I’m over him. Liz & Vanessa for F2
People owe Steve an apology…
I think he owe himself an apology. He was convince he threw it. She him the replay.
from what I hear is van wins veto. takes herself off block. liz goes up. steve convinces van to keep jmac.
If your source is credible I hope. Call me Gullible. Vannessa will keep Liz because she knows that Austin and her sister will not throw vote away in jury. If JMAC is sent home for sure he will not give Vanessa a vote. She is screwed.
This is live you wouldn’t know.
well, that sucks. I read that on one of the other threads. i guess they were wrong !!!
They all ready had it in discussions Vanessa wins POV
Fair and square.
Caleb, stop being so overdramatic. You’re a stalker, not a judo master.
in Britney’s words that is. :D
John for AFP.
Definitely my votes!!!
Everybody took a bathroom break.
No one’s dressed for an endurance comp. Is the first comp starting after the show or are they gonna wait?
They’ll go change during the evictee interview.
Who got evicted? Anyone knows?
Johnny Mac
Oh noooo
Haven’t done it yet.
Can’t wait for Survivor
Survivor is the best. Hope you’ll join us Survivor Fandom.
Where can we find that? I love everyone here, somewhere like this for survivor?
Another site from Matthew, our nice host here. it’s at Survivorfandom dot com.
survivorfandom dot com
Good to know. I can see the doctor about blood pressure meds.
Woo and Joe….cannot wait
I hate BB. Who do I file a complaint with.
Ha ha!
David.
Dude…
BB himself, Don Wollman. :D
is it fixed?
God
John…just….huh?…what? He’s so crazy!
Please evict John.
Boooooooooo!!!!!
She shook hands, swore on Mel yep you have zero integrity. What a bitch.
She sucks.
She did the same to Liz and everyone else in this house. It’s not much of a shock.
Yep but I was sick of hearing the entire season about all she has is her word and integrity. Barf
Barf allright.
In fact, I wish I could barf in her Lambo. LOL
Lol. Hey I guess they’re not starting the HOH on the feeds tonight.
Sunday night.
I know but they used to start it at the end of the show and on Sunday we would watch it. Sunday isn’t live so I wonder when they’ll tape it. It’s not live is it?
Frankly my dear, I don’t give a …….
Ok but I do.
Just kidding. I’m kind of desillusioned by this season.
Sunday night.
I heard her explaining strategy on the feeds and she referred to her word as one of her tools to play the game, so its not surprising if you consider that as part of her strategy.
Wow John said he would have voted Vanessa out. He is the biggest a-hole walking the planet.
Sarcasm? Maybe…
Had he won that POV, he would. He was supposed to back when Becky was HOH but James and company flipped.
But was he in the DR every five minutes and telling everyone in the house I wouldnt lie all I have is my word and integrity. NOPE. Gosh who was that? Oh yeah it was Vanessa.
But was he in the DR every five minutes and telling everyone in the house I wouldnt lie all I have is my word and integrity. NOPE. Gosh who was that? Oh yeah it was Vanessa.
Vanessa is scum bagging everyone
I have to comment on this. How did anybody else who made it to final 3 in past seasons get to final 3? I don’t know any person who was honest and won the game. This show calls for lying, manipulation, and breaking your trust. It’s expected. You can’t blame Vanessa for playing the game.
It’s not playing the game that is the problem, it’s how you play it. And don’t like the way she played the game.
There is no right way to play the game. Who says there is only one right way to play? Each of the winners of past seasons all had different games. Did you like the way Evel Dick played the game?
And of all of them, she has been the worse.
I don’t think so….but whatever. I guess I have to respect your opinion.
And I .. yours.
I don’t think so….but whatever. I guess I have to respect your opinion.
Derrick last year made sure everyone else would take him to final 2 and 3.
In BB14, Dan had longstanding alliances with everyone but is more strongly aligned with Danielle. He won the final POV so he took out Shane over Ian. He made measures to make sure either Danielle or Ian take him to the end.
Derrick last year made sure everyone else would take him to final 2 and 3.
In BB14, Dan had longstanding alliances with everyone but is more strongly aligned with Danielle. He won the final POV so he took out Shane over Ian. He made measures to make sure either Danielle or Ian take him to the end.
Jordan BB11.
Yep one of my favorites.
David BB15…………..no?
My other favorite. David and I have a showmance going on.
Yep one of my favorites.
Jordan never lied? I don’t believe that. Anyways, Jordan was a floater. She won a few comps towards the end. Even though I couldn’t stand Natalie, if I were a juror, I would’ve voted for her. She played the game more than Jordan did.
Jordan was likable, but she didn’t deserve to win.
America WAS a juror that season. And America’s vote went to Jordan by overwhelming odds.
Eddie, BB1. :)
Eddie NEVER lied? Find that hard to believe.
Honestly rude. He hated the guy who gave him the worst massage in the history of mankind, which turned out to be Will. :))
Hoping Steve would win.
Expecting Vanessa to win.
Meh. The Vanessa Show rolls on.
or woo hoo yay yippee The Vanessa Show rolls on.
omg! Was that the loudest cheers!..YES JMac for AFP
Who else is there to cheer for? James,him and Jason had the biggest cheers
He looked so handsome tonight. Yep I hope he gets AFP
I did like John, but didn’t want him to win. I never knew Liz would still be in this house…final 3. Who would’ve thought that these would be the people in the final 3 when there was 16 (17) people? I’m satisfied.
They don’t know what an arbiter is?
Not a very interresting trio.
Because Steve and Liz both played under Vanessa’s wings the entire game. Steve can’t think for himself, and when he tries, he chickens out. And Liz, though she won comps, was protected by Austin and Vanessa all season long.
So did Jmac…the whole house did besides James. And eventually Jackie and Becky
That’s what I said, not a very interresting trio.
I agree. Another season where I’m not happy with the outcome. The only thing that will salvage it will be watching Vanessa walk out the door. She can cry her tears all over Julie.
Do you really think she will cry?? I don’t.
This is just the most odd final 3
I didn’t think Jordan, Natalie, and Kevin were a good final 3. That was odd as well.
This one, not so much. You have 3 good competitors…well…Steve’s an okay competitor.
Oh I agree, I think they played great in different ways, even steve!
But on day one I would not think these three would stand here tonight, Vanessa yes (based on her playing poker). But steve being a social outcast and liz with a twin, who would’ve thought it!
I know, it’s just so fascinating. I thought Liz was going to be one of the first one’s out. Happily surprised she’s still there. I’m not surprised that Vanessa’s in the final 3. There was just something about her that stood out to me immediately. and she was a fav of mine from the get go.
Can’t believe Steve is there either! Kudos to them all!
I always thought that Steve was going to get evicted pre jury because of his social skills. I thought that Liz would get evicted around the middle and I knew that Vanessa would make it far. She was my pre season pick to win (along with Da’Vonne, Meg, and Jace).
She was my pick to win too! Let’s hope that happens. She has made it this far. It’d be a shame if she doesn’t especially considering she ran the house and had the most power and influence of any house guest this season! Vanessa, win that HOH!
Oh I agree, I think they played great in different ways, even steve!
But on day one I would not think these three would stand here tonight, Vanessa yes (based on her playing poker). But steve being a social outcast and liz with a twin, who would’ve thought it!
Vanessa will take Liz to the end if she could get away with it. She is fine with either one. They are both stupid enough to take her to the end. Write her check. Watch out Steve. Girl Power according to Van.
Well this wasn’t unexpected,he didn’t make a big enough impact. He was floating thru…and now if Vanessa is smart,she’ll take Steve to the end
He might not have won any HOH but he won bob (and threw some) and several veto. That’s not a floater.
(Yawns) Uh-huh
John just wasn’t good at this game. Nobody can convince me that he was good. I like him, I think he is funny, but he is extremely overrated by the fans. Everyone tries to paint him as a good player, but he did nothing in this game except be clueless. He even said he had no idea what he was doing.
You’re the truth,and the truth doesn’t lie. People like to make excuses because they’ve created some bond with him based on his DR quips. Sad that they’d vote him AFP and he didn’t so anything but quips
I believe if it wasn’t for his DR people would call him a floater or his game would be trashed by the viewers.
Do you guys think Liz could win with Steve in f2? I’m still conflicted with that one
Yes
No I think Liz loses either way.
Liz v. Steve
L: Austin, Julia
S: Shelli, Becky, Jackie, Meg, James, John,
Vanessa is a toss up
Liz v. Vanessa
L: Austin, Julia
V: Shelli, Becky, Jackie, Steve, John, (Both Meg and James are toss up but I can see them voting for vanessa)
You’re completely wrong about Liz vs Van.
I say Austin, Julia, James, Becky and Meg for Liz, for sure. I would add Jackie for good luck.
Becky isn’t voting for Liz, neither is Jackie. Neither of them had a relationship with Liz and both of them acknowledge Vanessa’s gameplay and are not bitter.
No way Becky vote for Vanessa.
Becky is not even bitter.
I would say no. But with this year cast, who the hell knows. They always do the opposite of what makes sense.
Damn.
Sorry but Vanessa is a dirty player! Derek never had to play dirty! Go Steve go! At the end of the day, you still have to live with your ugliness and no amount of money can fix that.
Amen.
It’s a game. You have to do what you have to do.
But you must admit she’s too good at it.
At playing the game? Yes she is good at this game. That doesn’t make her a bad person.
I don’t care who goes or wins now. Sucks that a zero changed the course of the game though…I don’t believe it anyway…too lame.
The show goes back to boring now.
Guess they’re still building and/or testing the set.
Vannessa seems to only care about final 2 never says anything about the money (she is a millionaire) I wonder if she has any side bets in the outside world thay she will make final 2 and that’s what she is focused on?!?
I’m sure that’s it.
Now even we are thinking of obscure scenarios like van
This makes sense
I’m sure that’s it.
this show sucks, i don’t want to see any of these people win any kind of money. the only one that could really use it in real life is steve because he is so awkward. he’ll need it. liz is a pig and doesn’t deserve it and vanessa is a POS and somehow has been given enough luck to win a few good hands of poker. again this show is a joke. its easy to trick the audience into thinking its not rigged. they cut out feeds for many of the competitions and you can’t see the diary room. do you really think nothing is being talked about in these places?
Blah.
Meh.
Love the final 3. Wish these 3 luck. Would love for Vanessa to win, but honestly, I wouldn’t be mad if Liz or Steve won.
Would hate for Liz to win. My pick is obviously Steve, and he’s been my pick since his initial interviews pre-season. However, I’m more than willing to admit that Vanessa’s been playing the game – she’s been playing it dirty, but she has been playing it – so if she wins, I’ll be annoyed, but it won’t be the end of the BB universe.
Amen..
Amen..
Best final three ever. Not one person who accidentally got there.
LOL
LOL
Done watching, done even care who wins, I guess go Liz? Bleh, worst season ever.
See you at finale night!!
Nope not watching, especially if Vanessa is there.
I never condone the jury being bitter. It’s a game, and you have to do bad stuff sometimes to make it to the end. The victor should be decided by who played the best game.
But Vanessa’s speech at the end is making me seriously reconsider that. I mean… wow. What a freaking hypocrite. How much nerve can she have to say that she can’t trust John if he was willing to break a season long alliance, TWO DAYS after she did the exact same thing to Austin??? Tell the truth: you’re scared someone will take him to F2 over you.
I have no problem with dirty gameplay. It’s Big Brother. Some of the best players ever played very dirty games. But they OWNED it. They never pretended they were heroes or that they were doing the right thing for anyone but themselves. Vanessa always insists that she is the victim, that she’s the honest one, that she has “integrity,” and in doing so, not only lies to the houseguests, but lies to US, the audience.
She may have been the best player this season, but I cannot respect the game she has played if she refuses to own it. I genuinely hope she does not make it to Final 2.
Oh, and that quote John said in his speech was from the game Halo 2.
I never condone the jury being bitter. It’s a game, and you have to do bad stuff sometimes to make it to the end. The victor should be decided by who played the best game.
But Vanessa’s speech at the end is making me seriously reconsider that. I mean… wow. What a freaking hypocrite. How much nerve can she have to say that she can’t trust John if he was willing to break a season long alliance, TWO DAYS after she did the exact same thing to Austin??? Tell the truth: you’re scared someone will take him to F2 over you.
I have no problem with dirty gameplay. It’s Big Brother. Some of the best players ever played very dirty games. But they OWNED it. They never pretended they were heroes or that they were doing the right thing for anyone but themselves. Vanessa always insists that she is the victim, that she’s the honest one, that she has “integrity,” and in doing so, not only lies to the houseguests, but lies to US, the audience.
She may have been the best player this season, but I cannot respect the game she has played if she refuses to own it. I genuinely hope she does not make it to Final 2.
Oh, and that quote John said in his speech was from the game Halo 2.
I don’t care why jury do what or for what reason. They want to be bitter, go for it.
I just don’t see it as bitter to hold Vanessa accountable for the bullying tactics she has used. That can be done by not allowing her to win.
Just that tongue lashing on James and Meg is enough for me to “dislike” that women.
Mean, despicable,game-rigging bully.
Everyone knows I was kidding about the ‘rigging’ part, right? She’s still a mean, nasty, despicable bully.
Right. All that mean-spirited mouthy crap she spews at everyone is really unnecessary. You can nominate or VTE anyone, but that should be it. All that extra garbage is just unnecessarily mean.
How was what she said to John before she evicted him mean-spirited?
Someone reminded me of the Jeff argument, that she made up completely. That was bad. I would slap her just for that one.
Here we go with the bullying tactics situation. Vanessa deserves to win. Just admit it. She was not a bully. John and Steve are stronger than you think. Steve is a badass in the DR.
Jasmine, Vanessa was the best manipulator. She played the game the hardest. And she played it by being a BULLY. Bully. Bully. Bully.
Jasmine, you have a lot to learn. Start here, if you have a mind that is open and capable of grasping this. JMac said he felt bullied by her. That may be the only time there was someone willing to approach the subject, but that one time makes her a bully. There is nothing you can do about it. She bullied JMac. She used bullying tactics to further her game. I really hope these HGs in the jury send a message to her and others like her with a no vote for Vanessa because of that. A person who bullies should never be perceived to be a winner in any circumstance. Bullies are losers.
Yet, you guys were harping on Austin for being bitter and a poor sport that he got evicted.
I wasn’t one of those.
True. I was trying think of why everyone dislikes Vanessa being a dirty player but was ok with Dan (forget season, the one where he was a coach) possibly being worse.
The reason? Dan owned up to it in the DR where Vanessa truly thinks she sticked with her word and played nice.
I agree and so do many others. Got sick of hearing “no blood on my hands and my integrity”. It’s a game own up to what you do that’s how you get respect for your game play.
I agree and so do many others. Got sick of hearing “no blood on my hands and my integrity”. It’s a game own up to what you do that’s how you get respect for your game play.
Part of the reason people (read: I) don’t like Vanessa is because of how mean she is. These mean-spirited comments when she votes people out are uncalled for and unnecessary. If you’re going to vote someone out, just say the HGs name and, if you need to, add “I’m sorry, just game play.” That’s enough. It is not necessary to stick the knife in and then twist it around and around before you finally shut up. She’s done that all season, and it’s just plain ignorant and rude.
I would hope she owns up to it finale night. I have a feeling she won’t.
I hate to say it, but Vanessa’s about to steam roll through these remaining bitches. I can’t stand her at all, but I guess her gameplay was good enough for 500K. This season was a joke. I really hope she doesn’t win, but look for her to anyway. She is an odd, manipulative person.
Indeed, she is a manipulative person. But that’s what got her to final 3. She played this game! Go, girl!
Indeed, she is a manipulative person. But that’s what got her to final 3. She played this game! Go, girl!
She just need to win the next HoH, or she’s out, neither of the other 2 will take her to F2.
She just need to win the next HoH, or she’s out, neither of the other 2 will take her to F2.
I hate to say it, but Vanessa’s about to steam roll through these remaining bitches. I can’t stand her at all, but I guess her gameplay was good enough for 500K. This season was a joke. I really hope she doesn’t win, but look for her to anyway. She is an odd, manipulative person.
This is probably the correct final 3 based on gameplay. But really, not rooting for anyone. Guess Liz by default. Kind of hope Steve gets 2nd.
Game play? Liz deserves to be there? Maybe she does…pimping yourself out is a strategy I suppose.
Liz won some HOHs so I guess she gets some bragging rights for that. But any though or decision she made was due to the guidance of someone else.Two of Vanessa’s biggest puppets are in the final three lol
Game play? Liz deserves to be there? Maybe she does…pimping yourself out is a strategy I suppose.
John is gone ! Nooooo! Final 3 is Van,Liz and Steve. This last HOH will determine who goes to final two ! If Liz wins i assume she will take Van but if Van wins, i assume the same thing. I feel Steve will be next to be evicted.
John is gone ! Nooooo! Final 3 is Van,Liz and Steve. This last HOH will determine who goes to final two ! If Liz wins i assume she will take Van but if Van wins, i assume the same thing. I feel Steve will be next to be evicted.
Awwww. Jmac was the ‘Greek chorus’ of the house. Atleast, he had the ‘WTF?’ look that these people have had me feeling most of this summer.
Awwww. Jmac was the ‘Greek chorus’ of the house. Atleast, he had the ‘WTF?’ look that these people have had me feeling most of this summer.
Ain’t that a kick in the head~~ Reluctantly, I’m now cheering for Vanessa.
Even though I don’t care now, I would have to agree with you.
Even though I don’t care now, I would have to agree with you.
Ain’t that a kick in the head~~ Reluctantly, I’m now cheering for Vanessa.
Turned on my TV to see the eviction interview, even though I was trying not to spoil it for once. Le sigh.
Poor JMac :|
Turned on my TV to see the eviction interview, even though I was trying not to spoil it for once. Le sigh.
Poor JMac :|
I wish John a long healthy life filled with lots of hugs and happiness.
And care bears ! Lol
Karma…it’s in the bag for him.
Vanessa is an IDIOT!!!!! Why wouldn’t you evict Liz?!?!!! You would’ve had 3 votes for sure with Austwins!! Well Austin is a toss up right now but he wouldn’t have voted for Johnny Mac over her. Ugh if Steve doesn’t pull through and make F2 then this will be THE WORST F2 EVER!
Umm Liz has 2 gaurantee votes. Regardless of who Liz sits next to she loses Big Brother.
That’s not necessarily true. It’s a toss up for all of them but if Liz was in the jury then Vanessa would get the 3 Austwin votes not Steve and not Johnny Mac. That was my point. With Liz next to her she for sure doesn’t have 2 votes, the rest no one knows for sure.
Steve will vote for Vanessa. As a superfan, I think he would have respect for the way that she played the game and give her his vote.
I agree but that’s not what I was talking about. I was saying that if it had been Vanessa/Steve or Vanessa/JMac then Vanessa would have all the 3 Austwin votes for sure because they would never vote for Steve or Johnny Mac.
Austin has been a major disappointment. Saying that he is going to try and taint the jury against Vanessa. Hey Austin..she got to you before you got to her and that is what this game we call Big Brother is all about so put your big big boy panties on and deal with i! Sore loser!
He’s a sore loser thats for sure ! He just mad he got Judased!
I really dislike Austin for saying that. Thank god we hae Shelli to be the voice of reason.
True, but, did you notice how they were all shutting Shelli down? I think this is going to be a very bitter jury and not just because of Austin and his crap
Maybe I am optimistic to believe that they won’t be bitter. I hope they won’t.
He was upset. I understand why he said it. That’s no reason to dislike him, though. And this is coming from a Vanessa fan
The reason why I dislike Austin for saying that is because he came into the game talking about how he was going to backstab people or whatever, than when he gets backstabbed he wants to bitch about it. Than on top of that he wants to taint the jury. I just don’t like that. He needs to understand that it’s a game. He is a superfan, he knows what goes on when it comes to Big Brother.
Worst season ever! I wouldn’t vote for any of them to win BB17!
I would vote for Coco.
You go Glen coco
Glen coco?
Glen coco?
It’s a mean girls reference, and it made me laugh xD
Mean girls movie
You go Glen coco
I would vote for Coco.
Pretty sure last season someone said that was the worst season ever, and the season before that, and the season before that, and the season before that…
Yes, I’ve said that too at least once each season, but this season was just everyone being afraid to do Vanessa wrong even if she did them wrong. Just stupid game moves.
Pretty sure people said the same thing last season when Derrick played all those suckers like a fiddle.
He did, but Derrick was so likable. I can’t stand Vanessa and her river of tears all the time. She was stabbing people in the back and making them feel bad about her doing it. No respect for that type of game play!
Vanessa’s tears are annoying but I assume she must have some sort of strategy behind it, playing the sympathetic card.
But I want Vanessa to win because when was the last time a Strategic Female player won Big Brother?……
Worst season ever! I wouldn’t vote for any of them to win BB17!
I don’t understand why everybody Hates Vanessa so Much. She has definitely played the best game out of all of the houseguest so far and she hasn’t done anything Really wrong. Sure she has been manipulative and lied to people throughout the game but isn’t that how it’s supposed to be played? Based on her gameplay I think she deserves to win big brother.
I think people are more upset of how she played and didn’t own up to it. Always playing a victim.
But I agree, who cares how she got there. She’s about to win 500k
Pretty much this in a nutshell.
Pretty much this in a nutshell.
Does everybody else own up to their game? No! It’s not just Vanessa! It’s strategy, anyways.
She got to the final 3 fair and square.
Not true, everyone owns up to it in the DR. Even in the DR she is crazy blaming everyone else.
The Jeff fight is a perfect example! She said prior to the fight that she needed a reason to put him up, and everyone needs to find her one. She ends up fighting with Jeff, even saying she was going to provoke him. And Bam! All of a sudden she is the victim, boohoo this, boohoo that – you provoked it, get over yourself hunny.
It’s funny, my mother never watches the live feeds, or even gets updates on them – she purely watches the show. And even with the BB fantastic edits, even she hates Vanessa and think she only cries her way through everything.
That’s game-play! Vanessa WANTS people to believe one thing, when she really means another.
She did cry a little too much, but I think that was just strategy, to get people on her side.
Yeap, the Jeff fight was completely made up. I had forgot about that. Another reason to “dislike” her.
Not done yet.
Very true, they could take her out still
She won’t get it if she doesn’t win HoH.
That’s half of it. People who don’t own up to their games rarely win in the end. The voters don’t want to hear platitudes or how you didn’t get blood on your hands. If you’re a finalist, you got blood on your hands.
The other half of it is that people think she’s played such an imperfect game. She’s made so many mistakes, yet gets away with it. A smarter cast would have tossed her weeks ago. Hell, this season’s cast knew what she was doing two months ago, but they’re too scared to do anything about it.
Maybe she’ll own up to it on finale? Probably not based on her DR.
She definitely did not play a perfect game and got caught multiple times but yet she got away with it. Good on her
Remember when everybody was wondering who was the fourth vote to evict James when Jeff and James were on the block? Liz didn’t own up to that either. She sat there in that bathroom with Vanessa and the others. They were all inquiring as to who that vote was, but Liz didn’t say a word and made it seem like she wasn’t the vote. It’s called withholding information which is a strategy.
I understand not owning up to it in the House – why would you tell everyone you did a bad?
But the DR is private, no one finds out about that until after the show, and who cares if the HGs like you after BB when you are 500k richer?
She still owned up to it in the DR and explained her reasoning!
I agree it’s smart for van to withhold her game play info, but own up your lies for DR at least. I still think she played the best game though
Her game play isn’t the reason why people dislike her.
Her game play isn’t the reason why people dislike her.
Some people have said that her game play is the reason. They don’t like the way she played the game.
Her hysterical interrogations, crying and not owning up to her crap are my reasons for disliking her. I would be 100% on board if it weren’t for that. I kinda am now anyways because I don’t think Steve or especially Liz deserve to win anything.
Those points you just mentioned…that was all strategy. No rule book states that you have to own up to the moves you make in the game. There is nothing wrong with her crying. The interrogations were part of her game.
BB (and Survivor) juries don’t look favorably on players who don’t own up to their games.
We’ll see about that. Shelli is the only reasonable person in the house. She realizes that they should vote with their heads and not their hearts. Sure, they are upset that Vanessa got them out, but it was game-play. The object of the game is to be the last one standing.
Right.
So be it. I don’t care if she gets the money, maybe she does deserve it. I doubt she cares what any of us thinks anyways lol
Some people have said that her game play is the reason. They don’t like the way she played the game.
Clearly, (and others can vouch for this), I don’t hate Vanessa one bit. I love everything about her. She has an awesome personality. It was just overshadowed by game-play.
Just like Audrey, she was so witty and funny, but we hardly ever saw that side of her because she was always talking about game.
That’s not the issue. Some of the best BB players ever have done FAR worse than her. But unlike them, Vanessa won’t own up to her own game. She always pretends that she’s the victim and that she’s nothing but honest and full of integrity, not just to the other players, but to US. How are we supposed to respect her when she’s lying to the people watching even more than she’s lying to the people she’s playing with?
I don’t dislike Vanessa at all…I think she has played an awesome game and deserves the win. My problem with Vanessa is that she never “owned” her game. I wanted to see her go into the DR and say this: I can’t believe I keep getting away with this..I am playing these people like fiddles.” But, she never did.
If she had said this, even once or twice, instead of going into the DR thinking America will love her as a victim…
No, every fan favourite player has gone into the DR and laughed their faces off that they are getting away with manipulating the eff out of everything!!!
2 votes already locked up for Liz and Austin has time to persuade more. Dumb move Vanessa! Bet her girlfriend is reconsidering her game play on maybe her too. This is a pitiful season
She’ll take Steve not Liz
I doubt steve will take vanessa if he wins though.
Never mind, he probably will if she tells him to.
Austin won’t convince anyone to vote against Vanessa, he may be convinced to vote for her before its said and done.
2 votes already locked up for Liz and Austin has time to persuade more. Dumb move Vanessa! Bet her girlfriend is reconsidering her game play on maybe her too. This is a pitiful season
I hated to see John walk out the door
Me too. It was rough. I really wanted JMac and Steve in F2.
Me too. It was rough. I really wanted JMac and Steve in F2.
I liked John but did he really deserve to be the winner? No.
He can win fan fave….even though his goofy, pretending to be dumb schtick got old real fast.
I think he’s genuine and played the game well, just had a different strategy and wanted to maintain his dignity. Better to win AFP with class than to win it all and have to live with yourself…well, maybe not. No, I believe that’s true, he’s got a bright future and lots of good karma without the money. I can also see him being called on in future…too bad Austin.
I think I’m done here…not the same without my boy Johnny.
I liked John but did he really deserve to be the winner? No.
He can win fan fave….even though his goofy, pretending to be dumb schtick got old real fast.
I wonder if John even tried to stay.
I don’t know why it bothers me so much that many people have hated this season! It boggles my mind. I love all the people on this season! I don’t think it was a joke.
I just remembering reading numerous comments in the beginning saying how this was going to be a great season.
It was for me. But for the majority of people, I guess not. Was it the lack of game-play from most house-guests OR was it just anger that Vanessa’s a beast at playing such an imperfect game, yet she’s still in the house?
It was just the utter lack of game play. No one wanted to do anything…
Half the house was gone before Meg even realized she was on BB – even then it took her until the final 5 before she was like “hey maybe I should win something!”
Through everything all we ever heard from Van was “I don’t want to get blood on my hands…” Well that’s kind of what the game is about, lol.
Brian pointed it out earlier, there’s no huge personalities left, and there was no manipulative man this season, so it was just a bummer to watch. No one wanted to play BB it seemed.
I found it very disappointing as well, I loved some of the drama but the way its been favoring a certain player, just didn’t feel exciting or even fun. place Vanessa in that house in any other season, she would of been walking out that door before she could have her third tantrum.
That’s what you think. I think she still would’ve been sitting in final 3 any other season. Not all of these people in the house this season were idiots. Vanessa just got to them before they got to her.
A beast, yes, but a mean-spirited, patronizing, lying, hypocritical beast. (“I’m a straight-shooter …” as well as the rest of the garbage she’s spewed all season.) At least she should have the decency to walk into the DR and admit to the viewers that she used every tactic she knew, fair and unfair, to play all the HGs like a well-oiled fiddle. Then we could agree with her. But for now, especially since she appears to think she’s beyond all reproach, she may win, but she’ll go down in BB history as one of the most unpopular winners ever.
It’s like she was talking to the audience in the same way she talked to the houseguests. Like we couldn’t see what she was doing.
Exactly. She may have gotten lucky with a bunch of HGs who weren’t the sharpest crayons in the box, but she’s seriously underestimating the rest of us out here who find her a transparent phony. I just hope she takes the time to read through these threads after the season ends so she can see what at least some of us thought of her both as a game player and as a human being.
I’m not mad at her for being phony though. I honestly believe that is not how she is in real life. She had to play the game and this was the way she played it. Nothing wrong with that….and seriously, if you come into this game not expecting to be lied to or manipulated, then you deserve to be sitting in the jury. Saying she’s not a good human being is over the top and unnecessary. I saw numerous glimpses of what a wonderful human being Vanessa is. Not surprisingly, it was when she wasn’t constantly thinking about game.
As last night’s episode suggested, people say whatever they can to get people on their side. Vanessa wanted them to believe she was a straight shooter so she could get them on her side. But they realized that she wasn’t as much of a straight shooter as she claimed, yet they still kept her in the house. She was able to persuade and convince the house-guests numerous times. Props should be given to her.
Who cares,she still would leave with 500,000,so in my book she gets the last laugh and not only that,most likely will be invited back for another show,at least Vanessa is not boring,can’t say the same for most of the others.
Its her crying and her statements like I don’t want to do this but I have to so please don’t hold it against me because I’m a really really really nice person and I swear on Mel it won’t happen but I will give you $10,000 if it does happen so just do what I tell you or you might be the next person I rant and rave about how you did me wrong song!!!!!
Inhale here and breathe…….whooo!
I don’t know why it bothers me so much that many people have hated this season! It boggles my mind. I love all the people on this season! I don’t think it was a joke.
I just remembering reading numerous comments in the beginning saying how this was going to be a great season.
It was for me. But for the majority of people, I guess not. Was it the lack of game-play from most house-guests OR was it just anger that Vanessa’s a beast at playing such an imperfect game, yet she’s still in the house?
i enjoyed seeing Caleb back doing his karate moves
Has anyone noticed when Vanessa is lying she looks to her right??
That’s a tell.
And she take long poses between her sentenses, like she’s looking for the right lie lol.
I meant he left…my right. Well that just makes me sound very Lizzie!!
Or very crazy. Who pays attention that hard to this show…?
True, the only person who was the WORST liar was Austin. His eyes get bigger and he quivers too much.
I guess all the eye rolling made me notice. She’s looking to the left and that means she’s creating what she says on the right side of her brain.
Its called how to tell if someone is lying to you….look it up later. JFYI.
She does all of that…she always been super animated and annoying. I guess I just think it’s much to be paying so hard to details. I’m aware of tales,and also aware that they aren’t 100% accurate. And sometimes people just have “ticks.”
And no thanks,it’s information about a show. So you can keep it. My life does go on…
Not for the show…for your life. You need to know when someone is creating a lie. If right handed that person will look to their left.
When my girls were little they were very good at lying. Only their eyes would give them away.
Caleb much cooler than Austin. Enjoyed his hosting.
And doesn’t have freaky man-eating beard, that’s also a plus.
Thanx to Caleb for bringing some comic relief to a tense veto comp.
Also pretty easy on the eyes… ;)
The best part of the night was Austin digging himself in deeper as someone with no character and no class whatsoever…I commend myself for saying it nicely.
The only thing that grows with Austin is his dirty beard ! Maturity not included !
Asstin and his sour grapes self should be removed from the jury for being a sore loser.
Shelli looked annoyed with him, cant blame her.
Do they have an AMD…America’s Most Disgusting? Maybe Austin can be a celebrity after all.
All Austin wanted was to be famous. Infamous is more like it. All he’ll be remembered for is by spending the entire season destroying whatever integrity Liz entered the house with.
I like that.
Okay, I wouldn’t go that far. Austin’s okay.
Or Shelli giving him stank eye.
That was a close second…lol.
Well… GO LIZ!
Things are that bad, huh?
I found that comment way funnier than you probably meant it to be lmao. Yes it is that bad.
Well, some weeks ago I was rooting for Becky… and she’s in the jury now. After that I was rooting for John and he’s in the jury now. Honestly I don’t like anyone of the three remaining houseguests (Steve lose all my respect).
I vote for immunity squirrel !
I’d also like to say I called it! Everyone who was reading yesterday, I knew it would be a baby announcement! lol
Yeah but why waste air time on that. We’re going from the final four to three and we have to suffer through Brenchel. Vomit time
Not enough time to to get the endurance comp up and ready in time for the live show.
Hey Austin, that’s how you leave with class
Go Girl Power!!! We’re due for a girl to win now!
Tbh I’d rather see Van win because the person i was rooting for just went out the door.
Yep, same here!
Who cares if it’s male or female??
I care. I’m tired of seeing alpha males always win these games. I’m a-ok with an alpha lady taking the title.
What about a regular person…there were plenty of them in the house. If you think Liz is an alpha lady you’d be wrong on two counts.
I was referring to Vanessa.
ok
An A-Lady? As in Adderal?
Exactly
I’d like to see Vanessa win because a strategic female has never won the show (besides Jun, i guess).
Liz is undeserving because she road coattails the majority of the time.
Steve’s HoH = Vanessa’s HoH. He’s too much of a fan of hers, did he forget he’s playing against her?
I think Steve idolizes Vanessa out of fear. Given the choice, he takes Vanessa to F2.
No, she’s his surrogate mommy. It’s very uncomfortable watching them together.
He always tells her…I need a hug. Ugh!!
Teri and Just thinking … both of you are right. (I was trying to be nice.) LOL
He might take her because he’ll see her as the better choice for a winner! Bless his heart!
Not anymore. I know he would lose.
Liz won a lot of comps. Austin was riding on her coattails.
No worries, everytime it gets near the end. it always becomes an issue of female vs male, no clue why. I would be all for Vanessa winning if she didn’t have so many advantages, right now I don’t care who wins. so long its someone who can end her facade, because its been really predictable and boring for awhile, I always favor a bold and strong move. but its simply a game, it shouldn’t be a sexist issue.
A bold move would have been to take Johnny to the F3…that would have shown some guts.
If by guts you mean stupidity, then yes.
Maybe, maybe not. If Liz wins it all…well, it ain’t over till it’s over. Steve is likely to forget another zero and Liz has an automatic 2 votes in jury and few enemies in there.
Maybe Vanessa will get 5 votes
Liz against Steve in the end?= ????
Vanessa against either 2= Vanessa.
Either way, Vanessa controled those 2 whenever they had power of HOH, they could win and she’d probably manipulate them to take her to the end.
Vanessa either controlled people or steamrolled over them. She earned this final 3.
She could probably get these two to vote themselves out. Good for her I guess.
Unfortunately, Vanessa cares. She’s already said she wants a girl to win this season. So unless she was lying through her teeth (oh, wait, that couldn’t happen!), given the opportunity for her to choose, Steve doesn’t have a chance.
I care. We need some girl power. Boys have won the majority of these seasons. A lot of people seem to think boys are better than girls. I want the girls to prove that wrong by how well they play the game. Vanessa has played a great game.
At this point, rather see Liz win.
Sure, let’s cheer up Austin…until she dumps him that is.
Liz is listening to vanessa. Sucker
Vanessa has been playing chess all summer with these nimcumpoops
Yeh, but it doesn’t matter what Van says anymore. It’s all about who wins comps!
Yepper
That we are, I just hope we aren’t represented by a cheater.
So the dentist finally went packing, really not surprising. no points for actually playing the game that well, maybe his target shouldn’t of been Meg when he went out the first time, no wonder Vanessa is looking good in that house, when you are surrounded by weak players, its easy to look strong. next.
JM was like a zombie walking around the house..that is, when he wasn’t sleeping. I think I am the only one who didn’t really care for him.
I didn’t see the charm either, he just sounded like a muppet and he had no real strategy, he wanted to ‘make a big move’ all season but ended up just being used for bigger moves. but I wouldn’t mind him or James winning favorite player.