From one night to the next Josh Martinez has kept us on our toes as we try to follow just which way his likely-to-be swing vote will land during tonight’s first live eviction of Big Brother 19.
Tuesday night we saw Josh go to Cody and Jessica promising his vote to evict Christmas only to head downstairs and laugh about it with Paul as he confirmed he was going to stick with him to vote out Jillian and watch the outgoing HoH flounder about after previously ignoring him all week. Well his tune may have changed yet again on Wednesday night in a camtalk session where he questioned his path ahead.
Flashback on your Live Feeds to 1:39 AM BBT 7/6 Cams 3/4 to find Josh alone in the Have Not room. He commences a roughly 20 minute talk about what could be his best option for aligning and who he should send out the door. Grab the Free Trial now so you can rewind and watch. It’s worth a listen.
Josh starts off saying he’s been treated poorly all week and is being underestimated so far. He is confident that whatever he does could either make or break his game. Josh knows he’s being drawn toward the showmance side but he worries that only Paul, Christmas, and Dominique can be trusted. “They already have their solid seven. They’re not trying to break that up. They’re not trying to bring me in,” Josh points out while noting he has pledged his loyalty to Paul and Christmas.
Keeping Jillian would be a less of a threat to his game, Josh comments, but keeping Christmas would put someone in the house that’s going after Cody. Josh admits Christmas would be a strong player, even with her broken foot, for the stronger alliance though she has trusted him so far. He worries Christmas wouldn’t extend herself for him as he’d do for her.
“I’m really torn,” says Josh. “I gave Christmas my word, but looking at the bigger picture and seeing how they move, I don’t think it’s best for my game. So this is really hard.”
Josh goes on to praise the “strong five out there” as he points to where Alex, Jason, Kevin, Jillian, and Ramses are sitting and says he’d be their sixth. Sadly for Josh, later Alex was telling Jillian not to give Josh any more info because he can’t be trusted. Seems that group doesn’t particularly want him in their core like he believes.
Bouncing back again Josh says he trusts Paul, Dominique, and Christmas, but does not trust “those two showmances,” Mark & Elena and Matthew & Raven. Would that be enough for him to steer away from that group?
Jumping forward a few minutes after other HGs walk in Josh resumes his camtalking at about 1:49 AM BBT. He says he will be the captain of his fate and is ready to play it solo since he thinks that’s an advantage in the game.
Josh makes it clear that he wants to keep Jessica & Cody in the game since they’d be bigger targets as Josh considers himself the next in line public enemy after they’re gone. So if he doesn’t want them immediately targeted then you’d think he’d want to keep Jillian, right? He’s so all over the board here.
Few minutes later at 1:52 AM BBT Josh says he hopes either Matt or Raven will flip their vote. Well that’s an interesting point there. What would that do for him? If he does VTE Jillian but either Matt or Raven flips then it’d be tied and Christmas would be voted out by Cody. If Josh decides to go with VTE Christmas and either Matt or Raven flips to that column as well then Christmas goes by two votes. Either Josh hopes to bury his vote there or wants to stick to his promise with Paul and still see Jillian go. I think he might mean the latter.
Jump ahead to 1:56 AM BBT as Josh reiterates he will show his loyalty to Paul through his action. Josh feels very close to Paul. He speaks of having “a lot of respect and love for that kid.” If he really wants to show his loyalty to Paul with his actions then he votes to evict Jillian.
So there we go. I do believe Josh is on the razor’s edge right now with his vote but if Paul continues to stick by his side on Thursday morning and leading in to the eviction show then I expect we will see him vote to evict Jillian. Holding the rest of the votes as we saw earlier this last vote puts Jillian out the door 7-5 over Christmas. But if Josh freaks out… well no matter how it goes we’ll get a wild show tonight and I can’t wait!
Make sure you’ve got your Live Feeds signed up and ready now so you can jump on as soon as the east coast broadcast is over and we’ll watch the fallout in the house because you know it’s going to be good!
What do you think will happen? Has Josh flipped to keeping Jillian in this cryptic discussion or will he ride with Paul and help Christmas stay in the game? Share your thoughts below!
I think he will change his probably 20 times during the day. In the end, he will make a gut call. What that will be ? Who knows.
Knowing Josh..he will go in the DR to vote and say “I vote to evict Christmas..No, wait..I meant to say “Jillian.” This kid is all over the place and I truly do not know what he will do..he told Christmas or Paul that he just blanks out at times and they need to bring him back!
He’s a little bassackwards, so it takes a village to show him the right direction.
But the exciting thing here Capt. is the fact that the vote isn’t a given. The last few seasons has been so boring when ALL the HG vote w/the house (or HOH). *snooze*.
Even tho it fills me with anxiety…I love the fact that this season seems to be different in that regards.
Ya know, BBOTT was like that too. Divided house and I actually loved the season. The producers seemed to learn from that experiment too and have improved on casting and implemented the 10 am wake up as well! Here’s too an exciting vote tonight no matter how it goes…we (the BB fans) are guaranteed drama and some exciting feeds afterwards and that’s what I’m looking for when I watch BB!
I agree. I love the suspense this year!
Yes, it should be an exciting vote, no matter how it goes.
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I thought the same thing, the producers cast people like in bbott so the house would be clearly divided. In bbott they cast classic sorority girls and fraternity guy types on one side and cutting edge “Alternative” types on the other side. This year it is really smart people versus not super smart. I love it because of the contrast.
Good point. That has been the way the last 2 seasons handled things, and it got very boring.
Hope he doesn’t see a squirrel in the yard before the vote. He may VTE “Squirrel!”
That’s what I’m afraid of too! Hopefully he’ll be better composed before he opens his mouth in the DR!
You missed the Josh & Jason convo @ 9:10pm in SR – where they are working “under cover” allies! Voting X-mas out!! Silly Josh, doesn’t know who he wants to work with lol
Josh also told Cody & Jess that he was also voting out Christmas. Did Josh tell Jason that he was telling the other side that he was voting out Jillian? So far I’ve only seen Josh talk about promising both sides in his talks with Paul.
No Josh never mentioned it, but did say the other side is going after Jody, which keeps them all safe (Alex, him, Jason & Kevin) and no one knows the 4 of them are together and they have to win HOH! So he is definitely all over the place!
He sure is. Makes for fun feeds! Seems like if he’s only revealing to one side that he’s telling the other side things then if I had to bet then I’d say Josh is being honest about his lying when talking with Paul. How’s that for messy!
Love that statement when talking about BB — ‘be honest about your lying.’
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teehee
He doesn’t want to make enemies with Jason just yet, so he’s not saying anything to him what his actual vote might be.
It’s hard to be too sure of anything at this point. I feel certain the vote is 6-5 for Jillian to go with Josh vote being the only question. Regardless of what happens you’ll either have Paul, Dom, Matt, Raven, Mark, Elena and Christmas blindsided or Cody, Jessica, Alex, Jason, Ramseys, Kevin, and Jillian blindsided. There will be at least 7 people in shock tonight which I can’t recall the last time if ever that many people were truly blindsided. I feel like his heart is with Paul and Christmas, but he’s worried about game farther down the road if he works with the showmances. I personally think he’d be better off working with Paul because he’s eventually going to cut the showmances anyway. My gut feeling is Jillian goes, but who knows.
It’s hard to be too sure of anything at this point. I feel certain the vote is 6-5 for Jillian to go with Josh vote being the only question. Regardless of what happens you’ll either have Paul, Dom, Matt, Raven, Mark, Elena and Christmas blindsided or Cody, Jessica, Alex, Jason, Ramseys, Kevin, and Jillian blindsided. There will be at least 7 people in shock tonight which I can’t recall the last time if ever that many people were truly blindsided. I feel like his heart is with Paul and Christmas, but he’s worried about game farther down the road if he works with the showmances. I personally think he’d be better off working with Paul because he’s eventually going to cut the showmances anyway. My gut feeling is Jillian goes, but who knows.
“Sadly for Josh, later Alex was telling Jillian not to give Josh any more info because he canโt be trusted.”
Yeah, of course Josh can’t be trusted!
“Jump ahead to 1:56 AM BBT as Josh reiterates he will show his loyalty to Paul through his action. Josh feels very close to Paul. He speaks of having โa lot of respect and love for that kid.โ
That’s the reason why!
Paul doesn’t like him! What is Josh doing!
I don’t know what he will do, really, at this point, I will be pretty certain and if Julie tosses out on of those more convoluted ways she sometimes asks for votes, he might vote a way that he just doesn’t mean.
What’s funny unless Paul, Christmas and Dom basically say while they are working with the remaining showmances they are a now independent threesome, I’m not sure I would trust them going forward. Yes, I know Alex and Jason are basically using Cody and Jessica, but I think they are actually being more clear about what is happening there and most of the five is voting for Jillian as their friend. And I say all that and I want Christmas to stay because she is more interesting that Jillian.
I agree. Keeping Jillian is a better strategic move because Christmas is a worthy opponent. But Christmas actually has a personality. I think Jillian is a sweet girl, but she’s like watching paint dry.
Josh is going to be a popular person today. I get the feeling whomever is the last person to talk to him before the vote might sway him.
Yeah but do the HGs know that? Both sides seem to think they have locked down his vote.
Josh is way too high maintenance and unpredictable, unlike Cody/Jess, who have been exposed for who they are. Whoever wants Josh’s this week should babysit non-stop until tonight’s eviction, then send him straight home next week with his golden apple. Just a thought.
I dunno, I really want Christmas to stay, I really do. But also I really want to wipe that smug out of Paul for once, I really do. Oh hell, I give in to temptation, pls BB God let Josh vote to cancel X-mas this year! And while you are at it, let Carmen (oops I mean Cameron) re-enter the house and kick Paul out for good. Thank you.
I’m conflicted as well. I wanted xmas to stay, because I believe she would have a comp beast and I haven’t been able to see that yet. But I want Paul blindsided. Plus I think it’s ironic that the two couples abandoned Jess and Cody because Cody didn’t discuss his plans and went rogue, yet they are blindly following Paul Who is doing the same thing talked about he has a master plan but everyone just needs to wait and see.
Is there a reason you refer to Cameron as Carmen?
Cody called him that.
Is it me or do I get Brandon Hantz vibes from Josh?
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/074d604394e2940aadd6dc89aff48607977be64209f662d1b3162649212735f7.gif Uhm, no. :)
Brandon Hantz? I can’t remember him. What season of BB was he on?
It’s Willie Hantz, and it was BB14. He got thrown out for taking a swing at the chef Joe Arvin.
Oh! I totally remember him. He was the 1st HOH and on Britney’s team. Lost his mind in like the 2nd week of the game. His brother was on Survivor too right? Except, I thought Dan said his (Willie’s) brother’s name was Russell?
Am I off here?
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Yeap, he was indeed the brother of the infamous Survivor player Russell Hantz.
From Survivor. Aka Willie’s nephew
I don’t think the last person to talk to him will get his vote.I think the first one who talked to him will get his vote and that was paul.
I really would like to see Christmas stay but I don’t want to see Paul get his way. And I want Alex to make it to the end and she has a better chance if Christmas goes. I love Alex. She’s a spitfire. I would love to see her get HOH.
Ditto
Hey Lavgirl! Hope you are having a great summer I agree with almost everything you said. I can not stand Paul. If BB was determined to bring someone back, I wish it had been anyone but him ( well almost anyone) I disagree about Alex. Not crazy about her. But I really like Christmas. She is my fav and I hope she goes all the way to the end. She has guts
Really? I can think of so-so-so many other HG that would be worse than Paul coming back & I don’t just mean the overtly obnoxious ones like Jozea & Frankie. How about another round of Jason Roy after BBOTT, or Devin who tried to make a whole house alliance! And then there’s Lawon, who thought it’d be a good idea to ask to be evicted so he could gain a superpower when he came back? hahaha. All of these could have stirred things up coming back.
At least Paul does offer something more than drama. He livens up the feeds and can be funny, plus the kid is a smart guy. He was a total recruit last year and, after a terrible first week, he caught on to the game of BB pretty quick and made it to F2. JS. Since BB producers insisted on bringing back a vet, there are so many other Hg that are far worse imo.
Totally agree with you. There are so many Vet HGs. I would have rather seen them Paul. But if Frankie or any of the players you mentioned had returned, I would have not watched BB till that person was gone.
Love Alex too, but I would rather it be a showdown between Paul’s side & Alex’s side (minus the uglies of Cody/Jessica) rather than a battle between Cody/Paul. I think Christmas staying is one more step closer to Cody & Jessica going, and to me, that is main objective.
Everyone is after Cody/Jessica so it doesn’t matter if Christmas stays or goes. And she’s after Alex after Cody/Jessica so I want Christmas to go.
I want her to get HoH next!!!
I’d love to see Alex at the end too. I’m just worried about the curse of the first. But let’s hope she can finally break it. There’s a first time for everything!
‘Josh starts off saying heโs been treated poorly all week and is being underestimated so far’
Because you are a psycho dude, wth. That stunt you pulled in the competition, that mini breakdown. Get it together.
Also, I am not pleased with all this Paul hate in here lol
I love Paul but everyone is entitled to their opinions. It’s the beauty of BB. Some like this one, some like that one. We don’t have to be in lock step with each other and agree on our favorites. It’s what makes the game interesting and keeps the convo lively on the boards.
Paul is the type of character that people either love or hate. He’s okay with that scenario, so we should be too. And, as Fiddle mentions, everyone is entitled to their opinions. The producers created an opportunity for him to come back for a reason, I believe it’s because Paul is an entertaining HG; whether they love him or hate him, people will tune in to watch.
People are entitled to their own favorites and opinions. If they hate Paul, it’s how they feel. lol
You’re not pleased?
Well Gee, that really makes me change my mind about the obnoxious loud mouth.!
LOL
Can someone explain to me what happens if Ramses gets nominated. Does that cancel his curse? What happens if he wins HoH next week, and has not exposed the curse yet?
No can nominate him, he has to put himself on the block as a 3rd nominee.
What fiddle said, plus he has three weeks to do so.
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Hey Em!
Tonight’s episode is sure to ex-cit-iing!
Aww, thanks girl!
We found out last night that he has to decide before nomination, so if he decide to put himself on the block, no need to nominate him. But he is still eligible for nomination, if he decide not to put himself on the block.
I thought they said he had to place himself on the block BEFORE noms.
Josh will be the most popular houseguest today, and the most bloodied houseguest tomorrow. How exciting!
Yes, and we have seen how well he stands up under pressure.
This little Mama’s boy will be “wee-wee-weeing his pants all the way home.”
For all these house mates who swear they are superfans and dream of being on this show, they make the same mistakes each season. I never understand why the women allow the men to talk them into voting out women first. They always get played by the all guy alliance. And why don’t the weaker house mates band together and get the stronger people out? If they keep putting them up and voting them out, the playing field will be more level towards the end. They are afraid to make a big move when they have a chance, only to curse themselves on the way out the door. I’m sure it’s so much different inside because of being sequestered and locked up with strangers. But some of these decisions are kind of basic things they learned by watching the show for years.
Aside from Ramses I don’t think any of them are super fans. He is the perfect example of this, he wants to be with the cool kids last I heard. Is he sincere in working with Alex, Jillian, Jason, etc.