After a blowup between Josh and Mark around midday in the Big Brother 19 back yard, tensions were high and future targets rapidly began to shift. A lot of the HGs are getting on each other’s nerves and there are no longer any solid large groups in the house.
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Big Brother 19 Live Feed Highlights – Monday, July 17, 2017:
3:17 PM BBT – Mark and Josh are playing a very intense game of pool when Josh scratches on the 8 ball. The stakes were drinking pickle juice with hot sauce in it. Josh denies he lost the game and wants to “redo it.”
3:30 PM BBT – Josh brings Mark the pickle juice mix. Mark takes it and throws it in Josh’s face. Read the full report on this situation.
3:33 PM BBT – Josh retaliates with ketchup and ranch dressing by throwing it all over him. Mark chases after him, but shockingly neither guy throws any punches. Big Brother was announcing “STOP THAT!” but it didn’t work.
3:45 PM BBT – Mark tells Elena he was just joking around when he threw the juice in Josh’s face. She suggests he wait a bit then go apologize. Mark says he will.
3:50 PM BBT – Mark tries to apologize, but Josh isn’t having it.
3:55 PM BBT – Josh is trying to calm down by sitting in the hot tub.
4:15 PM BBT – Mark is apologizing again. Mark feels bad, but Josh isn’t accepting the apology and says it was disrespectful and he has no respect for Mark in return.
4:17 PM BBT – Josh is openly accusing Mark of having tried to target Paul and Christmas in Week 1.
4:25 PM BBT – Houseguests are gathered around Josh and the pool. Mark arrives. Josh is angry still and tells Mark not to talk to him anymore.
4:30 PM BBT – Jessica has gotten involved and is asking Josh if he lied to her about the votes and he says he did because he didn’t owe her anything.
4:40 PM BBT – The arguing and fighting continues as Josh yells as Jessica to go hide in her room then come back reinvented to try to rejoin the game again.
4:50 PM BBT – Mark has gone back inside, but now Christmas and Dominique are arguing. Christmas wants answers and Dominique is upset about her not being loyal to her. Christmas suggests she’s planning to vote Dominique out now.
5:05 PM BBT – Mark tells Paul he didn’t think it’d end like that with the arguing and expected it to just be a food fight.
5:25 PM BBT – Kevin thinks Josh sunk his own ship there and will end up the target next week for his behavior.
5:30 PM BBT – Dominique camtalks that she’s figured out what Paul’s doing but plans to have a little apology in her eviction speech in case she’s been wrong about her assumptions.
5:45 PM BBT – Paul talks with Matthew and Raven about keeping Josh because of the distracting drama he creates. Paul suggests Ramses and Jessica next week for nominations.
6:05 PM BBT – Kevin tells Jessica she’s doing well and to keep her head down.
6:25 PM BBT – Dominique is still in the Lounge doing her camtalking.
7:20 PM BBT – Elena asks Ramses if he thinks this big blow up will hurt Josh enough to send him home. She worries that Mark hurt his game with that too.
7:25 PM BBT – Elena suggests to Ramses that Paul will go deep in the game since he’s done it before and knows what to do. She expects to see Jason and Alex there too.
7:35 PM BBT – Christmas says she tried to be open to discussion with Dominique but she didn’t take her up on it. She says she’s out of olive branches.
7:45 PM BBT – Paul asks Dominique why she thinks he’s a snake. She asks why everyone stabbed her in the back. Paul tells her he was just playing around with the snake thing but is done and doesn’t want to continue the hostilities. She thanks him.
8:30 PM BBT – HGs discussing Josh’s blowup earlier. Kevin says Josh won’t last much longer in the house.
9:00 PM BBT – Everyone is hanging out, playing around. Nothing going on.
9:12 PM BBT – Alex mentions that they’ll never be given booze because of their behavior even without it.
9:15 PM BBT – Kevin tells Christmas there are people going to jury he never thought he’d see there like Jessica and Ramses. He doesn’t understand how it’s happening.
9:35 PM BBT – Everyone is calm and civil. No game talk going on.
10:30 PM BBT – Alex tells Jason she’s confident they’ll make it to at least Final 6 if not Final 4. Jason says not to get too cocky. Alex starts in on Kevin again and his hinky votes. She’s annoyed with him for always asking her what’s wrong.
10:35 PM BBT – Josh says Raven is always making comments about him and she thinks he can’t hear her. He says it’s not game related or anything but just mean stuff. He says he likes her but she doesn’t like him. He says he could tell Raven and Matt were happy when he got the two-week slop punishment.
10:37 PM BBT – Jason, Alex and Josh can’t figure out who Ramses would put up. Alex says they need to consider who goes out next because they’re building the jury. She says the next person to go is someone they don’t want in jury.
10:38 PM BBT – Josh thinks they need to get Matt out because he’s a competitor but Alex says he hasn’t even come close to winning anything. Alex says Matt and Mark aren’t huge competitors.
10:39 PM BBT – Josh tells Alex and Jason he would never put them up. Jason suggests Christmas. Josh says if he won HOH, would gun for the other side’s numbers and would nominate Mark and Matt. They agree that they would’t go for Ramses. Alex says Ramses needs a team and they could use him.
10:45 PM BBT – Josh asks Alex if she thinks Paul will take a shot at them. Alex says not this coming week. Josh asks what about later. Alex says when his safety is up he might. Josh wonders if there will be a jury Battle Back.
11:40 PM BBT – Dominique is talking with Josh and admits she may have brought this situation on herself. She understands if he has to vote against her. She reveals to Josh that she’s an engineer and he’s shocked.
12:05 AM BBT – Jessica tells Josh that some of the women felt he was trying to peek on them in the shower. He’s surprised and says he would never do that and it isn’t true.
12:20 AM BBT – Dominique advises Josh that he has an advantage in knowing how the house sees him and he needs to use that in his favor. She suggests he cools down and get back in the game. Dominique warns him not to trust anyone though.
12:35 AM BBT – Josh questions why Mark gave up on Dominique so quickly. She says it makes her suspicious as well.
12:35 AM BBT – Paul and Alex think it’d be interesting for Josh to win HoH because he’d probably take a big shot at someone. Alex doesn’t think it’s worth going after Christmas since she’s hurt. Paul has suggested Ramses and Jessica as the noms pair. They agree that Josh should stick around and be used to do their dirty work for them.
1:05 AM BBT – Christmas says she might get her cast off in as early as six weeks, but it’ll be a year before she heals up to normal.
1:15 AM BBT – Alex tells Paul that Kevin suggested they go to the end together (K & A) and she agreed, but never agreed to a F2. She worries Kevin’s influence could prove to be strong if they let him go deep. Alex says she considered putting Kevin up this week to damper the hinky vote.
1:55 AM BBT – Dominique is up and goes to Ramses to talk with him saying he’s one of the few she respects in the house.
2:00 AM BBT – Houseguests are still up goofing around and joking.
2:50 AM BBT – Dominique checks in with Mark and says she wants to talk. He agrees to talk with her later, but that doesn’t end up happening tonight. Elena returned later saying she thought Dominique might be doing that.
3:30 AM BBT – Houseguests are finally off to bed.
After a heated started to the afternoon that rolled in to the evening most of the Houseguests settled down and enjoyed the night. When the nominations are decided and you’ve got a few days of worry free living that can be easy to do. Not for all of them though and Dominique made some efforts to reestablish connections, but will it be too little too late?
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I’m very interested to see what comes of Alex telling Paul about her not trusting Kevin. I hope that wasn’t a bad move… Because lord knows Paul is going to tell Kevin…
Kevin is Paul’s minion, he may keep that information in his pocket and save it for another day. Alex is a strong competitor and with Christmas hurt Paul may latch on to Alex, but he will have to get someone to take out Jason.
I think that Paul’s deal with Alex is the real deal. He only tells Kevin what he needs to to serve his purposes.
I agree! Alex is a better competitor I could take Paul for their whereas Kevin just does Paul’s dirty work for him and could end up turning on Paul and telling everyone.
Food fight!
Too bad Jason didn’t use the veto and have Alex nominate Mark. Now that would have been awesome! It would have added even more drama to the house!
I love the drama!
If Mark was on the block, he propably would not done that stunt.
He really isn’t that smart, he is Elana’s lap dog and does what he thinks makes her or Paul happy, it makes me sick.
I suspect Elana enjoys Mark’s company but see’s him as a strategy. I think she will cut him as soon as it’s needed. She didn’t even press Alex about the deal they made to keep Mark safe.
Actually I think it was last week that Mark was saying as soon as jury comes around he wants Elena gone…
Whoa!!!! That’s crazy! Was that after Elena tried to convince him to go up on the block because he won’t get voted off? I don’t watch Big Brother After Dark, I feel like I’m missing everything lol
I don’t watch big brother after dark either. I’ve seen maybe three episodes, and I fast-forward most of it or it’s just on in the background and if something sparks my interest I will then watch it. I still have every single one of them recorded 🙊
I disagree, in the heat of the moment people do stupid crap. I like to think your right though.
I agree this was immature of Mark and Josh!! But Josh is annoying and gets on people’s nerve. Also Josh would not have pulled this stunt if he was on the block.
True! Although, I’m very happy he did! So I’m glad he’s not on the block LOL
What is it with Paul and his obsession with getting Ramses out? I don’t get it, he’s not a great threat and he’s on his own in that house pretty well. Surely there are bigger targets than Ramses.
I think Paul is still hung up on the Veto thing when Ramses almost won and Paul told him to throw it.
But he was targeting Ramses before that so I don’t get it
Oh was he? I didn’t know that. I think Ramses has a mind of his own, as well as Dom & Cody. Paul is trying to get rid of the one’s that will not do what he wants.
That’s pretty much what I said :-)
True that! I think it’s because Paul cannot control Ramses & he is playing his own game, managing to stay off the block and it’s a threat for Paul for whatever reason! I guess a vote against Paul if/when Paul is on the block
Exactly!!!!
Might be something he heard or saw, that we didn’t. Or like Chrissy saying the damn veto thing. Or Paul might just be too paranoid.
I think alex should be the one mad at ramses if he won that veto she would be gone now.
However how can you blame Ramses for trying to win that veto. At that point, pretty well everyone was ignoring him until he nominated himself. Then they think he should trust them? I wouldn’t have and I don’t blame him.
Fully agree! He did not owe anyone in that house any favours! He still doesn’t, and unlike most of the HG’s, Ramses is not listening to Paul!
Paul knows if he (R) gets HOH then it is a good possibility he will go on the block and probably home
I think it’s because Paul doesn’t have any influence whatsoever on Ramses so he’s concerned if he wins the HOH then Paul will go up.
Unlike most of the HG’s in the house, Ramses is doing his own thing, on his own and that scares Paul! Also Ramses did not listen to Paul and he fought for the veto and came very close to destroying Paul’s HOH
Paul is better but also sketched of him
Ramses won’t pledge loyalty to Paul like everyone but Jessica has. Sometimes when people are talking to Ramses he is too honest.
True and Ramses trying to win the veto, in Paul’s mind, would have solidified that.
Paul is just trying to make Ramses a target to avoid being one. Ramses is alone so Paul tries to have everyone seeing him as the next to leave so people won’t talk about Paul.
They all seem to be obsessed with Ramses being the “mole”, not just Paul.
Sometimes those who are overlooked end up winning…. #rememberSteve #rememberIan #rememberJordan
No one thought they were threats…. yet… here we are… lol
I agree! Ramses has no one. I think it is because he almost ruined Paul’s HOH/back during Cody by almost winning the Veto. I think Paul is still pissed and bidder
is Alex stupid??!!!!!
why not get rid of Paul??! WTF…
Josh to end!!!!! hahaha
He’s safe this week!! Why creating an unnecessary ennemi.
Um PAUL IS SAFE!
Nobody can do anything about him atm.
She needs to work on getting rid of him after his immunity but instead she’s hoping to go final 2 with him. WTF is right.
It’s funny to me how all the HG’s have to constantly teach Josh how to function as an adult. He is a 5th grade boy trapped in an adult body!
Might be a victim of hovering mother syndrome. His mother didn’t let him mature when he was a teenager. Look like it anyway.
Yeah that’s what it seems like.
Wonder what he is like in his normal life? There is something off about him, certainly not mature. I think that he is intimidated by the others in the house and can’t handle his emotions so lashes out.
That’s exactly what I’m seeing, an overprotective helicopter mom.
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I agree. Most likely he’s spoiled and the baby of the family.
Even though I hate Cody’s personality, I’m hoping that he comes back into the house. I feel that he & Dom are the only ones that will go against Paul. But he won’t last long unless he shows that he has a social game. Otherwise, I’m pretty sure Paul will run the house until final 4 and we might see him or Alex winning.
Depends if Cody changes. Because nobody save Jessica seems to like him after his betrayal. I think Cody’s main problem is he doesn’t bond with anyone. Paul’s one thing but he comes off as cold and emotionless. Is that someone you can trust?
Honestly somebody has to knock Paul off his high horse. Doesn’t matter who it is.
Any idea who’s loyal to who?
Because everyone is all over the darn place.
Not a damn clue, it’s exciting to not know where lines are drawn.
Matt and Raven seem to be pretty close. Or are they? (Vaudeville villian-style eyebrow wiggle).
Seems to me that Christmas is most loyal to Paul, she tells him pretty much everything going on in her game and on more than one occasion has tried to solidify an F2 alliance with Paul only to basically be told, “We don’t need to make it official”.
If I had to guess, Paul probably likes Christmas more than anyone in the house, but he seems to realize that she’s not best for his game due to her foot – thus the recent trash talking he’s done behind her back. He appears to be distancing himself from her, yet still defends her when the prospect of her nomination comes up which I find perplexing. He’s still keeping her secrets safe, which makes me think that when he trashes her, it’s mostly just to throw people off of their relationship (he’s mentioned to her how they need to separate). Regardless, it doesn’t seem he has any true allegiance other than to himself, which I guarantee will eventually catch up to him. Everyone needs someone they can bounce their strategy off of and Paul just doesn’t have that.
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Other than that, Mark is probably most loyal to Elena and vice versa. Raven is most loyal to Paul and Matt (meanwhile I have no clue who Matt is truly loyal to, mainly because he’s not really playing the game). Jessica currently has no one. Josh is most loyal to Christmas with Paul a close second. Jason is most loyal to Alex, meanwhile Alex is probably most loyal to Jason but that could be shifting to Paul more and more by the day. Dom is now a free agent without many suitors. Nobody really trusts Ramses because they think he’s playing the “rat game”.
Lastly, there’s Kevin, who is a complete conundrum to me. A lot of people want to say he’s this brilliant player, but honestly I think up to this point he’s just been super lucky that he hasn’t been exposed for the hinky votes and what not. I really have no clue who he trusts, I used to think it was Paul, but he seems to be getting tired of him. I’m just going to say that Kevin is just blissfully ignorant of the game and is doing whatever catches his fancy at that moment.
That’s all at least my perception, could be mistaken.
A food fight!! Seriously!!! How immature of them both!!!
Agree 100% with Alex about them getting booze, unless things get boring later.
It really is quite simple as to why Paul wants to target 🎯 Ramses!
Unlike most of the HD’s, Paul has no control over him (R) & Paul knows that if Ramses wins HOH, that he’s not afraid to put up Paul & that scares Paul because he has control over pretty much everyone! Ramses I made it very clear when he almost won the veto and almost screwed Paul’s HOH/back dooring Cody!
Sure Ramses is alone in the game, but that’s also a threat to Paul!
“Alex mentions that they’ll never be given booze because of their behavior even without it.” LOL! You aint never lied girl!
I’m glad she sees Ramses as someone of value in the game. He’s doing better in the comps than others too. Matt and Mark suck at comps, dear Lord. Josh needs to stop worrying about people liking him and focus on the game dammit! What, are you going to have a slumber party or something? Focus on the money, fool.