John’s chances of survival this week on Big Brother 17 don’t look good but that doesn’t mean he’s given up and has actually been working pretty hard on Vanessa, potentially this week’s deciding vote.

John McGuire isn't ready to give up on Big Brother 17

John McGuire isn’t ready to give up on Big Brother 17 – Source: CBS All Access

Since Vanessa decided she couldn’t use the Veto and then subsequently couldn’t get Steve evicted we’ve seen her turn to a new tactic: drain as my info from John as she could.

Earlier in the day (12:37 PM BBT) we heard John make a quick case to Vanessa that he wouldn’t be going after her if he stayed or if he came back. John promises he has bigger fish to fry both with the Goblins for betraying their VTE-Vanessa plan and the Austwins for their betrayal this week.

Move ahead again to 1:50PM BBT when John takes another swing at convincing Vanessa. They’re in the back bedroom talking about his options. Knowing that he’s unlikely to turn the twins, but not knowing how bound Vanessa is to their vote, John suggests he’ll work on getting the Goblins’ two votes.

John’s idea is to tell James and Meg that while he’s upset at them over how they handled Becky, he’s more upset about what the Austwins did and he’ll go after them. With their support Vanessa could be the third and deciding vote to keep him.

Vanessa uses this opportunity to press for more information about the Austwins’ real plan for this week. John tells her they, the Austwins, promised him everyone was planning to use the Veto this week no matter who won so they could get Vanessa out. Had Vanessa won, as she did, the plan was told that James would go up and out instead. Obviously that didn’t happen.

John warns Vanessa that whatever deal she has with the Austwins isn’t as good as she might think it is. He says the only reason she didn’t go up front was their fear of her freaking out if she did.

John has picked a good person to work on in theory, but he just won’t be able to get her vote to change because Vanessa can’t get the twins to change. She can’t make this move without revealing she’s turned against them. For this to work, John needs the twins.

In a recent talk this evening, 6:40 PM BBT, John and Vanessa talked again as she advised him it’d be better to try and flip the twins than the Goblins because then she could more easily vote to keep him.

Vanessa has told the Austwins that she’d continue to talk with John and supposedly even set him up for a trap, but I think she’s up to a little more than that. She’s getting good information out of a player that’s most likely leaving and doesn’t seem to mind burning bridges on his march to the sea.

Update: Vanessa again working on something, possibly still trying to swing votes, but it’s messy. She encouraged John to campaign to the twins then went inside, talked to them, and has them convinced John is now coming after them more than ever. Vanessa talked later with Austin and he was able to understand her better, but will he be swayed?


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